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by JackNco » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:02 pm
i haven't herd the term pin plug before but it might just be something ive missed. the Best SFIC has a control sleeve so the core can be removed and replaced or repined. the 2 sheer lines also make it harder to pick, well thats what ive herd.
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by Deathadder » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:24 am
*sticky me*
It's ok guys, i have a really bad attention sp-wow look, a beach!
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by morphje » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:52 am
xorb wrote:question: Is this why cylinders have the pin plugs?????
My best guess is simply the price.
It's a lot cheaper to drill a hole, take plug and insert with press
This way you have to drill hole, tap, take allen screw and insert with screwdriver.
the tapping is an entire extra step in manufacturing and the screwing also takes extra time compared to just pressing it in.
And if you think time is not an issue, think again. It was philips who started with torx heads, because it took 0,2 seconds less, which meant the could lay off 2 workers with the same load on their electric shaver assembly line
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by digital_blue » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:55 am
Deathadder wrote:*sticky me*
Seconded. Motion passed. 
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by JackNco » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:20 am
digital_blue wrote:Deathadder wrote:*sticky me*
Seconded. Motion passed. 
Cheers you 2, I was hoping that would happen
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by mr_chris79 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:32 pm
that is a brilliant beginners guide,its so good im going to try it with my double euro for a practice lock, thanks very much!!!
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by Archive555 » Sat May 31, 2008 4:50 pm
Nice!
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by ridderhenck » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:18 am
great idea,beginners and the more advanced members can make this work for themselves,well done 
the sky is the limit
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by Squelchtone » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:24 am
xorb wrote:question:
In a house environment this form of re-keying would be ideal.
In a large corporation building which has a master keyed system the ability for the average punter to take a bolt out, twidle the key and sabotage the cylinder by taking a hex key to the cylinder would be high.
Is this why cylinders have the pin plugs?????
I believe it to be a matter of money. It takes more time (read: money) to tap threads in the cylinder and more money for a little threaded hex grub screw. Engineers and managers are always trying to make a product faster and for less money. Plugging up the holes by forcing a piece of metal in there, is both inexpensive and fast. At university, most of my engineering problems were not based on making cool devices, they were based on cost analysis of how to make them cheaper and faster. Apparently that's the real job of an engineer. it left me feeling jaded. Squelchtone
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by Squelchtone » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:26 am
and I have got to stop necromancing old threads. 
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by lunchb0x » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:33 am
Whitco in Australia have a profile/ euro cylinder where there is one large cap held in by 2 screws that goes across the top to hold all the pins in, also i have seen older cylinders that have grub screws, personally I find them more annoying to re key because instead of undoing 2 screws, there are now 10-12 grub screws to undo, but they would be ideal for practice locks.
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by yoyoboy » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:56 am
The euro cylinder that came with my new screen door had hex screws for the all the chambers 
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by SnowyBoy » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:10 pm
Was a bit dissapointed to see the project ended up with a peice of electrical tape Tapping is much better IMO and takes literally 20 secodns to repin. http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4903/cimg5948.jpg
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!
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