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Need help in identifying these lock combination

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Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby 2townz » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:15 pm

Hi guys, I am new to this thread and found it when I was searching for a forum on locks. I do not even know if this is the correct thread to post this concern, but I really hope someone here can help me with my dilemma.

I recently came across a bag in the attic owned by my grandpa who passed away last 2004. It was locked with a two-digit combination lock the likes of which I have never seen until then. I had it photographed below:

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Is anyone familiar with this kind of lock? I tried every possible two-digit combination, while flipping the small protruding "knob" up and down, yet it won't even budge.

I hope you could be of help.
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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby EmCee » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:51 pm

Is it a Mont Blanc case?

Looks like there used to be a more attractive slider/knob in place of the stump that's left - are you sure it moves up and down...it might move left/right or it might 'twist'?

If you've tried every two number combo there's not much else you can do - the lock may be damaged or corroded after several years in an attic, so you might have to use a small screwdriver to lever the flap open as you try the combos and moving the slider..or you might try pressing it down as you operate the slider in case it's jamming the other way. You could try lubricating it - carefully so you don't ruin the leather.

If all that fails, you're down to more destructive methods as I doubt it would be worth taking it to a locksmith.

Cheers...
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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby 2townz » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:38 am

Thanks Emcee. It's not a Mont Blanc but a Russian-made clutchbag, judging from the Cyrillic text along the front flap. Let me see if I can get that knob to twist or move in a direction other than up/down.

For some reason Imageshack messed up my photos. Here they are again:

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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby vov35 » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:26 am

Can I see the text?
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby 2townz » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:54 pm

Here is the Russian text in the bag. Sorry for the quality, I'm used my camphone. I hope someone could make out what it says.

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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby vov35 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:03 am

buh, nothing useful, just a company name stamped on. Nothing lock related... I don't think it's the manufacturer's branding, but rather the company that purchased it. <Location/Name>'s Glass(es?) Choice.

Maybe it's an optics company of some sort... regardless, that doesn't help with the lock.

I know it's time consuming, but with only 100 combinations, you could experiment with different movements of the little actuator handle thing.
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby femurat » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:32 pm

Nice bag! Don't ruin it by forcing that lock open. I think the little knob has to be pushed towards right.

Good luck :)
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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby Rickthepick » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:15 am

Get the bolt croppers out :lol:
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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby vov35 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:53 am

gently pull on the hinge and look under it with a flashlight... see if you find something shimmable... I know that wouldn't get the lock working right away, but I do want to get you into that bag and not break it!
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: Need help in identifying these lock combination

Postby 2townz » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:55 am

Thanks guys. I'll be trying out all your suggestions today. I know it would be easier to take the trusty cutter but the bag is leather so I don't wanna waste a good piece. Will post updates after. :D
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