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Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

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Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby viking84 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:10 pm

One of the advertised courses includes guide, tools, and dvds to teach the trade. Is it worth spending the $269 vs $700 for a program? Im just trying yo make the best decision. Thanks!!

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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby Evan » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:18 am

@viking84:

A $700 "program" is not worthy of your "investment"...

A real locksmithing educational program from a school of excellent reputation compares to the price of attending a college...

What are you hoping to achieve with either of the options you are considering ?

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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby viking84 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:13 am

Evan,

Im trying to find material to educate myself in the field. The lockpick.com advertises less than Foley Belsaw $700. Thanks

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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby Eyes_Only » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:40 pm

Are you talking about this course? http://www.lockpickshop.com/LOCKOUT-SPECIALIST.html

If that's the one, don't get it. Everything in that "course" is outdated. 1/3 of it is literally just the MIT lockpicking guide you can get for free online. FB is better. Better, in that it's actually recognized by ALOA. However, nothing will ever replace getting your butt kicked by a lock in the field. You learn better that way.
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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby Darkness1569 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:48 am

Eyes_Only wrote:
FB is better. Better, in that it's actually recognized by ALOA. However, nothing will ever replace getting your butt kicked by a lock in the field. You learn better that way.



What does FB stand for?
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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby atticRR » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:46 pm

Foley Belsaw
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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby Darkness1569 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:04 am

atticRR wrote:Foley Belsaw


Thank you for the answer, Now that I have it I can see that I completely missed it in the above post. :oops: The funny thing is that I read it 3 times and missed it all three times. :oops: lol
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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby atticRR » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:01 am

no worries! happens to us all, esp me, for sure 8)
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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby dauce » Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:12 am

Evan wrote:@viking84:

A $700 "program" is not worthy of your "investment"...

A real locksmithing educational program from a school of excellent reputation compares to the price of attending a college...

What are you hoping to achieve with either of the options you are considering ?

~~ Evan


I am completely ignorant as to the cost of a locksmithing education - but surely it cannot compare to the price of nabbing a bachelors degree from say a state university (cheapest education next to community college). If it were comparable I'm sure it could never pay off.
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Re: Lockpickshop.com courses vs a locksmith program

Postby Evan » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:34 am

dauce wrote:
Evan wrote:@viking84:

A $700 "program" is not worthy of your "investment"...

A real locksmithing educational program from a school of excellent reputation compares to the price of attending a college...

What are you hoping to achieve with either of the options you are considering ?

~~ Evan


I am completely ignorant as to the cost of a locksmithing education - but surely it cannot compare to the price of nabbing a bachelors degree from say a state university (cheapest education next to community college). If it were comparable I'm sure it could never pay off.


@dauce:

That is the going rate for a well established trade/craft school...

It costs the same as a year of college at a state run school...

The difference is that locksmithing programs generally consist of 1 year,
while a bachelor's degree requires four years... Trade schools are
evaluated and regulated by the same regional accreditation entities
that accredit and certify that colleges are being managed and operated
according to proper standards...

If you want to buy a retail training course taught by an instructor who
is reading off the script, that is what you get when you pay $700 for
"training"... If you want an education where you will have individual
attention and hands-on skills practice with someone well qualified in
the industry, well, that is why it costs so much...

~~ Evan
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