Candle wax to aid picking

[Lauren]

Some of you die hard lock pickers may laugh for my lack of skill, but most of us have all come across simple locks that just won't pick open because of extreme high-low pin arrangements. You might wonder how nice it would be if you could freeze troublesome pins to the sheer line. I've successfully opened these locks by melting candle wax (not too much) into the keyway. The process seems to fiction or slow down pins alot more. I've converted the tip of a cheap ten dollar soldiering iron to mimic a key blade for easy melting of the wax.

[Romstar]

I hope you aren't too attached to those locks.

No matter how much you try, you can't clean all of the wax out again unless you disassemble the lock.

Now, some people will tell you that wax is a good lubricant, and they are right up to a point. The problem is that dirt and dust stick to it like crazy.

So you basically have a nice slippery glue that will very soon turn into muck and start jamming everything up.

Wax may help your picking, but its a really bad idea.

Romstar

[ldnlksmth]

reminds me of a lockout call where a Medeco cylinder had been superglued... the carpenter on staff thought it would make a great lubricant, and since the lock was used CONTINUALLY it wouldn't harden, protect the pins and other such things.

Rule one about lock service: the only two things allowed in the key way are operators (keys/picks) and LOCK LUBRICANTS (see related subject)

[Kaotik]

I agree with Rom on this one. Not a good idea.

[nezumi]

That said, a neat idea and useful if you're going to repin the lock anyway (like if someone lost the keys).

Thanks for sharing.

[ldnlksmth]

still not a good idea... no way to guarantee you got all the wax out. and it won't come up as problem until the hottest day or the coldest night when it's most inconvenient. Best to stay away from anything in the lock.

[eViLZuG]

reminds me of a lockout call where a Medeco cylinder had been superglued...

What I wanna know is, why did Medeco use superglue as a lube? I just can't imagine professionals using an adhesive to lubricate a lock. Totally counter intuitive... But makes me laugh

[keysman]

reminds me of a lockout call where a Medeco cylinder had been superglued... the carpenter on staff thought it would make a great lubricant, and since the lock was used CONTINUALLY it wouldn't harden, protect the pins and other such things.

Sounds a little "fishy" to me......

Are you sure they weren"t deliberately vandelised by the carpenter? or someone else..

[ldnlksmth]

I thought so too at first, but the carpenter admitted to doing it, and I've known the guy for a long time (used to work with him for a hardware installer). He certainly has the knowledge to do significantly more damage than that and not admit to it.

In another thread (customers who do it themselves and fail) I highlighted a call (same property actually, but not Medeco) where a security guard glued ALL the locks shut.

[carse]

in my evil days as a child we used a piece of a match, push it as far as it can inside the enemy's padlock followed by superglue wich of course hardened
in seconds , and that worked like a bomb.
so for using superglue as a lubricant, then you should be able to use it during steaming sex HA-HA

SORRY TO OLD TO BELIEVE IN THE THOOTH FAIRY.

bye for now

[77luke]

I thought so too at first, but the carpenter admitted to doing it, and I've known the guy for a long time (used to work with him for a hardware installer). He certainly has the knowledge to do significantly more damage than that and not admit to it.

In another thread (customers who do it themselves and fail) I highlighted a call (same property actually, but not Medeco) where a security guard glued ALL the locks shut.

Are you sure they weren't sniffing the stuff?

[carse]

i think it would be in order to shoot the carpender.
if you put super glue between two fingers and after 10 seconds be able to open them , then it was'nt glue he used .can u imagine what will happen to pins getting in contact with super glue.?

try it yourself with your front door, then phone a locksmith.to replace your lock.
anyway thanks for a good laugh.
bye

[Raccoon]

candle wax in a lock may not be as devastating as you say it is. i probably wouldn't use it as a long term lubricant, but as expressed above you can clean the lock when repinning, and it's easy. at the very worst, you could bake the wax off by placing it on your stove burner plate, turning the flame on high, and allow the heat to permeate the plug and shell (separated and pin-less).

we have done crazier things to locks when the need to enter outweighs the need to be proper.

ps. candle wax makes an excellent lubricant for sticky door frames. just rib the wax on the edge of the door and the frame where the door rubs. everyone should know about this tip.

[ldnlksmth]

hey, I never said the guy was smart. He's a nice, honest guy, albeit a little (sarcastic) slow...

[carse]

once saw a prison movie where a guy uses certain body fluids to stick some
pics on his cell wall, well anything is possible i guess
whatever it takes to lube that lock, if you dont care what happens in the long
run or if the lock doesnt belong to you.

never believe in super glue for whatever purpose , no shortcuts in life

just my silly opinion, ment no harm
bye