What's the pin order?

[SlimPickens]

I've been practicing on a couple of pad locks and a deadbolt I put into a 2x4 and I've got them down pretty well, but now i'm trying our back door lock (which is a lock in nob) and I just can't seem to get it. I can get the back 2 pins and it feels like the third but whenever I get the front 2 the middle pin (3 pin) always unsets. When I try to set it again it feels like it's getting stopped by the hull. I would take this lock apart but my mom say no way, fearing I'm going to break it or somthing. Does anyone have a possible solution for that ANNOYING problem?

[SlimPickens]

I don't have a rake yet... I'm going to be ordering the 14 piece set off of Southord pretty soon. I have made a half diamond pick and have been using that and a saftey pin. (works pretty well )

[maya]

I am new at this also and have picked just about every lock(pad) here at work( nightwatchman) and when I tried my door at home I had a lot of trouble. I did finally open it but I had to switch around with the pins. Example, instead of back to front I did front to back, ok didn't work, start with 3rd pin to front then went to 4th and 5th. Try switching around and see if that helps. Oh, I have never raked so I can't tell about that.Cheers

[SlimPickens]

Hey thanks for the advice. I tried in a bunch of random orders (middle pin first seemed to work best). I got the lock once but can't get it again . I can't rake either but I'm going to get a new set of picks (I made mine out of brick strapping but they dont work too well) and hopefully learn to rake. Thanks for the advice again guys

[att2785]

I had the same problem of pins unsetting and others feeling like they were getting stuck on something while picking the doors to my house (5 pin tumblers). I managed to get the door open several times by picking the pins in different order, and just re-picking the pins that popped up.

Try to follow this:
If you pick a pin and another pin pops up, re-pick the pin that popped up and go onto a different pin.

Keep doing this and you will eventually, by trial and error, find the order in which the lock needs to be picked.