Moving on to a schlage

[mcm151201]

Can you post a picture with the keyway in focus?

[Fire Fox]

mcm151201 - I've been trying to get the picture, but my camera doesn't like focusing close up.

[MrScruff]

This may seem counter-intuitive but try taking the picture from further away, at least three feet, and zoom in. Or if your camera has a macro setting give a shot since it's designed for extreme close-ups.

[Fire Fox]

MrScruff, thank you - that worked. The camera does have a macro setting.

[MrScruff]

I'm glad it helped! I learned the hard way when I spent over an hour trying to take pictures of a hundred and some odd years old straight razor I bought at an antique store, a friend finally told me to take three steps back and try again.

[mcm151201]

That's Corbin 67A1 keyway. Probably 6 pin, although it's also available in 5 and 7 pin.

[Evan]

That's Corbin 67A1 keyway. Probably 6 pin, although it's also available in 5 and 7 pin.

Not unless there is a massive dust bunny in the keyway...

~~ Evan

[mcm151201]

Evan, take a look at the link below and take a look at his photo with the contrast modified a little bit. Seems like an exact match to me:

http://www.lockbargains.com/locks_and_h ... 7a1-7.html

[Fire Fox]

That does look really close.

[Fire Fox]

Well, I got so frustrated because of this lock I stopped practicing for five months. I recently started with the defiants again. This time I focused even more on putting as little pressure as possible - this helped quite a bit. I really started getting feedback and understanding what I was doing. And can better feel when a pin has been set instead of listening for the click.

Today I decided to tackle this Schlage lock again. It is six pins ... and again I got VERY frustrated to the point where this time I decide to take the lock apart and see what exactly is going on. Turns out there is no security pins.

I put in two pin stacks and it's do-able for me. Now it's back to the basics using this lock.

[Jonbluegrass1]

I am relatively new to lock picking.Without knowing the difficulty, I have recently started trying to pick the schlage locks on my house doors and have successfully picked one with a tool I made and have picked another backwards easily a few times. They do seem easier to pick backwards.

[Fire Fox]

Well, I've been practicing on and off with this lock. But today I became a bit disappointed. It occurred to me that I'm picking this lock vertically in a vice, but the locks at work are horizontal. So, placed it in the lock horizontally - that was quite a difference in difficulty.

How much more difficult is it to pick a lock on a door vs. one in a vice? And as I think about it I have this nice comfy work area and the vice is set just right, that wouldn't be the fact if I had to pick a lock on one of the doors.

[Jedilocksmith]

Well I can say from my experience that picking a lock mounted on a door is a bit more difficult than sitting on your couch or at your work area with the lock in your hand or vice. A couple reasons: its mounted so you cant move it around to get comfy...and on most residencial doors, you can be limited on space for tension on one side or the other because of the door frame; and that can be a pain when the lock only wants to be picked in 1 direction. Thats why alot of people will make a practice lock stand so you can practice picking like if you where in the field; It helps alot.

Im sure more people on here could shed more light on why it more difficult...but the short answer to your question is yes.

[Fire Fox]

I never thought of the frame getting in the way, and looking at my front door ... yea, it does look like a pain; plus, to get in front of the lock I'd have to scrunch up against a wall!

I'm going to look up the stands to decide just how far I'm going to go.

[GWiens2001]

Fire Fox,

It is a different game when you go from a cheap lock like a Defiant to a mid grade lock like Schlage. The lock is better made. You took the correct path by disassembling the lock to see what is inside, and even more correct by progressively pinning the lock.

Kudos, and good luck!

Gordon