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Ever broken a lock by picking

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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby WeedIsMyCheat » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:03 pm

I've never broken a Lock by picking :)
Follow Your Bliss !!!!
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby chaos4zap » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:51 am

I have a padlock from Masters "Magnum" series that I broke on the second pick. The spring to one of the pins must have pushed through the top and is no longer pushing on that pin stack. I can still pick it and use the key, provided the lock is turned with the pins on the top so that gravity helps me out with that spring-less pin stack. I was in no way using excessive force, so I'm not sure how it happened. Maybe it was a fluke, or maybe these locks are just garbage.
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby DayZiro » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:18 am

I've never broken a lock by picking one (been at it for over half a decade) but a couple times other members in a lock sport group I go to have had a thin master pin slip out or picked a lock without a retaining clip and had it fall apart.
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby dls » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:51 am

I am now the proud owner of a chubb bankers safe with a broken pick in the bottom lock a 6k174 :evil: looks like a fatigue failure in the pick. Its well stuck so the drill is going to be busy
When picking starts to hurt take your finger out
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby gibson » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:56 pm

I've seen a few locks that other people have tried to 'pick', like finding a broken hair clip inside a cylinder that mysteriously stopped working.
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby Werxes » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:10 pm

I've never broken one, but my (current) favorite lock to pick, a masterlock no. 575, seems to have gotten much more difficult. It still gives great feedback, is quite smooth, and opens fine with the key... But the lifting force on some of the pins is ridiculous when it used to be easy. This is with applying barely a feather's worth of pressure with the tension wrench. I wonder if the brass has been impressioned or something?
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby Pickmequick » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:14 am

The first Yale 1A 5 pin i picked must have been well worn or badly made.

Once picked, i turned it through 180 and it got stuck as they do, lifted pins or so i thought and it turned but tightly????

once i got it back, i could see part of a spring??

Stripped it and found number 3 in plug now had 2 pins in it so it had rotated leaving the spring to drop into the next gap instead of the driver pin so i now have a 4 pin cylinder when i need something easier :D :D
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby vinnie » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:35 am

I have 2 that I used to pick a lot a lot and could do them no problem in under 10 seconds every time. then I got back to them a couple years later and have trouble picking them in 5 minutes. I'm starting to think there might have been some physical damage. If I decide to open them up I'll be sure to post back here if there is.
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby Pickmequick » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:32 am

Not 100% i have broken this one as of yet?

A master 5 pin boron shackle as pictured here

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It picked 1st time and opened in about a minute. I don't have the key so not sure if key retaining?

The key barrel wouldn't turn back so i assumed it was.

Re-locked it and tried to turn the core back but it just seemed to rock around the open position?

Are these clever enough to have trap pins in?
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby femurat » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:13 am

Are you sure it's 5 pins? Mine is 4. Definitely no trap pins.

Cheers :)
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby soksavik » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:55 am

I've yet to break a lock attempting to pick it (hopefully I didn't jinx it). But I have broken several trying to take them apart or reassemble them. Anything from dropping pins or springs, struggling to replace a pin stack I've taken out, or even overtensioning a retaining screw on a cheap Defiant cylinder I got at Home Depot.

I wonder if I'm just clumsy, but I struggle to reinsert the pin stacks on my practice locks.
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby Pickmequick » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:22 pm

femurat wrote:Are you sure it's 5 pins? Mine is 4. Definitely no trap pins.

Cheers :)


Yes, definitely 5, I could feel them quite easily.

It is quite a large lock with about a 12mm shackle.

Is yours key retaining?

Thanks.
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby femurat » Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:48 pm

Yes it's quite a big lock, 10 mm shackle iirc. There's a picture of mine with the original packaging in one of my old posts. Mine is not key retaining.

Cheers :)
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby Pickmequick » Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:20 am

femurat wrote:Yes it's quite a big lock, 10 mm shackle iirc. There's a picture of mine with the original packaging in one of my old posts. Mine is not key retaining.

Cheers :)


Just read that thread.

The image from here:

Oldfast wrote:My pictures were the insides of this lock. To be exact, the package says M930XKADLH
http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l50 ... st/150.jpg
Is this a different lock entirely from the lock you guys are discussing: 930/6230?



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Shows one of the boron shackle locks with 5 pins however, I don't know what model number i picked.

Reading the thread seems to show that the keyway does stop turned with lock open, maybe I just didn't turn it back hard enough for fear of damaging it beyond repair as my bad, it isn't my lock :oops:

That'll teach me about picking locks in use and that aren't your own!

If I can't get it back then my hand goes in my pocket for a new one!

Lesson learned :(
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Re: Ever broken a lock by picking

Postby Pickmequick » Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:13 am

Thought there was an edit button but can't find it????

Have found info on the lock as follows.....




No. M15 Excell™ Padlock

64mm laminated steel core with Titanium reinforced outer body for higher strength and reliability
Exclusive octagonal boron-carbide shackle for maximum cut resistance
Double deadbolt locking for added protection from prying and hammering
5-pin cylinder for increased pick resistance
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