Dudley Combination Locks

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LOL. Alright liuqee. You didn't happen to come up with that method while "sitting on the crapper", did you?



This was emailed to me by "someone" who happens to use the very same ISP as liuqee:

hey dumbass u want to know how to open a dudley, wll ive known scince 2003 i invented the method by myself when i was on the crapper thinking about how they work.
i'm 15 now and all the tools i need are my own fingers.
but 20 bucks isnt much incentive to tell my method to the world and giving it to you, you might get all the credit. you need to give me the credit and scince i dont have an account at lockpicking 101 i cant tell <edit> to any1.

so if you really want to know and if you wont tell any1 else, u gotta mail me cash to my house. i dont want any of ur gift certificates.

my stakes are out, if ur interested reply to this and we'll figure out a price.

db

[Chucklz]

I offer this as a suggestion.
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0 ... 63-6096308

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[liuqee]

User requested this post be deleted. I aim to please.

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Riiiiight.

I.P. of poster (minus first set for privacy): xxx.71.223.140
I.P. of guy who sent email to me: xxx.71.223.10

Of course, the first set of numbers match too. Seems kinda like a bit of a coincidence, doesn't it?

Blah. Whatever.

db

[TOWCH]

So the trick is, brute force the first two, then check for friction on the last one? if there's friction, you got the first two, now test each false notch? That will take forever but it's fairly clever. I just tested the friction thing on a master and there is a difference in friction with the first two numbers dialed. I'll test it on my unknown combo master.

[vector40]

If you have to brute force the first two that's still an inordinate amount of time, and hardly worth the candle.

[Chrispy]

BUSTED!!!!

Oh, and the last time I tried to 'spread the massage' I got my masseuse license revoked.

[liuqee]

wel... my english is bad so hard to explain but i average about 3 min to crack dudley lock..its like easiest for me. I kind of hate cracking master lock cause you have to try different numbers rather then the feel.

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Alright. It is October now. No verified method has been produced. I will now consider this a dead issue. If somebody does, at some point, demonstrate a viable and useful method, poke me in the ribs and wake me up.

Good luck Dudley Cracking Team....

Cheers.

db

[OrangeCrusader]

Will do, d_b. I'll grab a pointy stick.

This is a lot less often than I'd like to post (I missed a lot, possibly very significant things here), but I go on when I have time and an opportunity, along with something decent to post.

I wish I was here to read liuqee's method. Sometimes a simple problem (and these locks are very simple inside) requires an equally simple solution.

I'm here to more or less figure out how these can be opened without knowing the combo, much like opening a lock without having the key. I'm not in this to immaturely figure out how to break into people's lockers and steal things. I'm not in this for financial gain. If we manage to crack it, and I'm part of the group that does so (Dudley Cracking Team, or DCT), and contribute something that helps on crack the locks, a bit of credit is due, as it would be bad to have one person claiming that they did it by themselves, effectively screwing over the rest of us.

liuqee, taking 3 minutes to crack a lock such as a Dudley is amazing. If anyone wants to post the general method liuqee posted, with his(?) permission, or purchase it, please post it here. I both don't feel too comfortable sending money around with no guarantee of getting anything, and this isn't my largest concern, to be honest. I'm still interested, but not so desperate as to pay to get a method. I'd like to crack it myself, with the rest of the team, since that's what I'm in it for. If I wanted a fast, easy to learn method of getting them open, implying that I wanted to learn it to steal things, I would buy it, but I'm not. I'm sure there's someone out there who is very, very interested in buying liuqee's method, for personal reasons (i.e. stealing), but those people aren't very welcome here.

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If I may, I'd offer than my own experience with liuqee tells me you'd best keep your money in your pocket anyway.

Essentially, his method amounted to a combination of brute force number crunching and a process of elimination. I was not able to reproduce his results in a short period of time, but I'm not totally sure I understood the method fully due to abhorrent grammar and spelling.

db

[Lockmaster786]

lol well i guess we'll have to try and understand liquee and make him most welcome if his method is true.

by the way, no one is here to be stupid and steal things in locks. they know the legal consequences of that. Plus, we're all grown to be following this thread for 21 pages, that we are actually keen on finding out how to do this without malicious intent.

[rayman452]

There was my idea early early on to use the graph to graphically represent the points in an attempt to actually lower the amount of points rather then crack it in one shot....shall I get back on it?

[OrangeCrusader]

I still think there's something to the sticking points. If there was no link to the 2 free-spinning disks, then we'd see a perfectly straight line in a sticking-point graph, with equal spacing between numbers CW and CCW, but we don't. Someone please encourage me or prove me wrong, I almost feel like I'm groping in the dark here. Anyone?

Rayman, I wouldn't mind seeing a few graphs for the latest locks that we have both CW and CCW points for. Could you superimpose (or just plot on the same graph, with one reversed, to they line up the same way) the CW and CCW points? Maybe there is something there that we've been missing in the way they are positioned. Just a thought.