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List of security pins in locks.

Information about locks themselves. Questions, tips and lock diagram information should be posted here.

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Postby Safety0ff » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:41 pm

Bump just to roll over the topic.
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Postby brucsds » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:42 am

surprised nobody posted the "pin in pin" pins, or otherwise know telescopic pins. Not exactly security pins, but still good to look in to

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/mul-t-lock/

take a look :P
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Postby Kaotik » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:59 am

That's the reason in which they were not listed in this thread, because they are not security pins. They are standard pins for Mul-T-Lock, and as most of us know they can be difficult enough to pick without security pins within them. :)
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Postby brucsds » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:19 pm

I never thought of that! do they apply any security features to the pin in pin system? i´ve never heard of a serrated, os spool pin in pin lock, but i wouldnt be surprised :p
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American 5200

Postby slozinsky » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:32 am

Here is an American 5200 series - The serrated driver pins came out as they are pictured, two are one way, two are the other way.

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Re: Brinks and Masterlock

Postby djslacker » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:26 pm

Ofnir1 wrote:I just got 2 new padlocks, Masterlock 142 and Brinks 101-40001. Haven't taken any of them apart yet, both say they have security pins (spools on the Brinks, not sure about the Masterlock). I've been able to get both of them open with a single rake quite a few times already.

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The Brinks padlock that is pictured is the lock that I am referring to in this thread. I couldn't remember the model number because of Brinks's wierd model numbers.

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Postby .45cal » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:48 am

I've got an assa twin I could take apart if anyone wants to see what is inside.
Insert meaningful quote here!
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Medeco m3

Postby slozinsky » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:31 am

The grooves for the side bar are on the other side of the pins, i should have left some facing the other way so they would be visible.

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Postby djslacker » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:57 am

Here are the pins for an American Lock Series 5530.

4 out of 5 serrated bottom pins and 4 serrated spool pins and 1 serrated pin on top. Nice lock.

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Re: Medeco m3

Postby spoolspanker » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:20 pm

slozinsky wrote:The grooves for the side bar are on the other side of the pins, i should have left some facing the other way so they would be visible.

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wow. interesting
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Re: List of security pins in locks.

Postby MisterQ » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:55 am

A good link to get information about the pins for european locks is:

http://www.schlosswiki.unlockmaster.de/ ... er-Schloss

And here is the main site:

http://www.schlosswiki.unlockmaster.de/ ... er-Schloss

People from a german lockpicking board have started to catalog the properties about the internal lock parts. This is a open project and has started 2 years ago.
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Re: List of security pins in locks.

Postby awol70 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:02 am

American 2000 series puck : 5 serrated regular drivers and one spoorated spool up top,
and 5 out of 6 serrated keypin counterparts.(BEFORE REFURBISH AND KEYING)
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Re:

Postby awol70 » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:05 am

brucsds wrote:I never thought of that! do they apply any security features to the pin in pin system? i´ve never heard of a serrated, os spool pin in pin lock, but i wouldnt be surprised :p

yes, i own a few Mul-T-Locks, and i have serrated,regular and mushroom drivers, (shrooms in the interactive)
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Re: List of security pins in locks.

Postby FrenchKey » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:47 pm

Here is a break-down of a JPM / Cisa anti-picks keyway cylinder.

6 pins, 2 dead pins on the left, 2 on the right.

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(I don't know your politic about posting pictures, shall we put a link or can we put them directly on the forum ? Let me know)

No security pins in mine, but you can almost put no picks in it :D
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Re:

Postby awol70 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:09 pm

Afisch wrote:Strange question, but is there really any reason other than price for not using a security pin? I spose im just wondering why every pin isnt a security pin.

a valid query.
if you placed,say 5 spools in a five-chamber lock,the lock would go directly into a false set.(and operate poorly with the key)
usually one regular pin is used to correct this.
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