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by Kasmd73 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:47 am
Alchemic_Revolt wrote:Alchemic_Revolt wrote:Masterlock No. 40 pins: 4 security: yes
and the Masterlock No. 5 pins: 4 security: unknown
Yes Master #5 has four pins but NO security locks, A fairly simple lock to pick despite it's large size. An S-rake lifting up the pins or a half diamond works best for me (always under 30 sec)
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by Kasmd73 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:19 am
Anyone have advice? I've been working on Master lock 140 for a few weeks and just can't get it. I have picked other security pin locks but can't seem to do this. Tried ultra light pressure, alternating pressure, single pin picking, raking, lifting all pins and then raking, vibration, different picks, alternating sequence of picked pins. I can always get it to false set, I try to decrease the torque, but I just lose the set of other pins regardless of how careful I am.
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by Josh K » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:55 am
Kasmd73 wrote:Anyone have advice? I've been working on Master lock 140 for a few weeks and just can't get it. I have picked other security pin locks but can't seem to do this. Tried ultra light pressure, alternating pressure, single pin picking, raking, lifting all pins and then raking, vibration, different picks, alternating sequence of picked pins. I can always get it to false set, I try to decrease the torque, but I just lose the set of other pins regardless of how careful I am.
Some locks you are just harder then others. Maybe Take a break from it and come back in a few weeks.
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by af_newbie » Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:52 am
hydruh wrote:Has anyone here picked a Master 'Magnum' 240? It's a little brass number, 4 pins. I am having a heck of a time picking it, and I am not experienced enough to tell if there are spools in it. Anyone know what its pin selection is? Am I way out of my league?
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Magnum 240 has two spool drivers. Position 2 and 3 from the front. Picked it after about of week of trying. It is poor tolerance lock, so it is hard to feel the binding. (At least in mine). But work with very light pressure and lift the pins one by one, if you feel any pressure or obstruction, stop and move to the next pin, then come back, eventually you'll feel a click on one pin, then work your way to the others. I would not recommend this lock for newbies...
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by anthrax28 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:25 pm
hum, thanks for this
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by ckc123 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:08 pm
Josh K wrote:minktheshrink wrote:Just opened my master 911 to check and it has 5 spools. another noteworthy thing to mention is that a buddy of mine says master stopped putting securities in the 930 but i can not confirm this
I can confirm that there are none in mine.
Well I think we can now confirm that the 930's have changed over time.. I have an old one (from about 6-7 years ago), and I just disassembled it.. it had 5 spool pins in it.. 930/6230 is on the lock
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by Oldfast » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:58 am
Thanks for starting this list Shrub. I'm sure it'll help alot of people.
I recently purchased two padlocks from Lowes and HomeDepot. The MasterLock Magnum5 (M5XKADLF) has 4 pins and costs about $12. The other, a Magnum930 (M930XKADLH) has 5 pins and costs $25.
Both pick quite easily with SPP or raking and was sorely disappointed to find both locks had nothing but standard pins w/ beveled edges. Obviously the "security" that the M930 offers has to do with the body and shakle strength and not the inards.
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by FreightPlantain » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:46 pm
It looks like this question has been answered for the 930/6230, but for clarity's sake and visual reference: 
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by FreightPlantain » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:16 am
It could be the newer style. This is my lock:  I don't even know what KAD stands for:  And my generic Master 900 key: 
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by FreightPlantain » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:34 am
I think the 930 and 930/6230 are two separate locks. One looks big and bad. The other looks big and bad and has 5 spool pins.
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by Oldfast » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:06 am
Thanks for clearing that up. Yea, think this is just a case of older vs. newer version. I guess it's like the old saying goes, "They just don't make 'em like they use to."
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by FreightPlantain » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:48 pm
Too bad it seems they have removed the security pins. I wonder if they've changed the price...
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by FreightPlantain » Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:26 pm
"Both pick quite easily with SPP or raking and was sorely disappointed to find both locks had nothing but standard pins w/ beveled edges."
It should be noted that all pins have a beveled edge, which is called a chamfer. Since plugs and cylinders are round, this ensures no hard edges get caught when turning the plug. Just something I picked up. I hope it is of use to someone else.
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