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BUMPKEYING/LCKPICKING-Trigger lck pin( redesigned)

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Re: BUMPKEYING/LCKPICKING-Trigger lck pin( redesigned)

Postby SnowyBoy » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:23 am

, forgot to post the pic and can't edit!!!!!


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Re: BUMPKEYING/LCKPICKING-Trigger lck pin( redesigned)

Postby Engineer » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:09 am

I can see one (very) minor problem. Once the lock becomes known for it's "trick pin", people will keep it pressed in with a hook as they turn it, so you would have to manufacture them with differing trap pin positions, so no-one would ever know which pin to keep pressed in as they turned the cylinder.

Good work.
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Re: BUMPKEYING/LCKPICKING-Trigger lck pin( redesigned)

Postby SnowyBoy » Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:35 am

Engineer wrote:I can see one (very) minor problem. Once the lock becomes known for it's "trick pin", people will keep it pressed in with a hook as they turn it, so you would have to manufacture them with differing trap pin positions, so no-one would ever know which pin to keep pressed in as they turned the cylinder.

Good work.


Only problem with that is manufacturing on a large scale (as they do) with variations over 6 positions (assuming there are 6 pins) will incur too many costs.
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Re: BUMPKEYING/LCKPICKING-Trigger lck pin( redesigned)

Postby Engineer » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:35 am

Yes, unfortunately it will push up costs, but what is the alternative?

If the locking pin is always in the same place, then you have a lock you can bump (just don't turn it too far), stick a hook up 3, 4, or wherever you always locate the trap pin and press hard against the top pin in that position as you rotate the cylinder and all your good work gets bypassed.

Sorry, just a thought...
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Re: BUMPKEYING/LCKPICKING-Trigger lck pin( redesigned)

Postby SnowyBoy » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:55 am

Engineer wrote:Yes, unfortunately it will push up costs, but what is the alternative?

If the locking pin is always in the same place, then you have a lock you can bump (just don't turn it too far), stick a hook up 3, 4, or wherever you always locate the trap pin and press hard against the top pin in that position as you rotate the cylinder and all your good work gets bypassed.

Sorry, just a thought...


Yeah i totally see that. I don't think there's many options left really.

Personally I would move on and try to design a different lock altogether.
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