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by OrangePick » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:34 am
Forgot to mention a couple more details:
1) you can see circular marks on the edge of the lock body that the pins are below. I'm not sure how these are made, but I wonder if I poked that pin against a weak spot in the metal.
2) types of pick attacks I've been successful with: Bogota 3-arch HPC thin S or snake rake (jiggling with light-to-medium tension)
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by SAM PICK » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:52 am
I have the same lock and it took me a long time to SPP the first time, and even longer to be able to consistently pick it but, I think my biggest impairment to the process was that when it frustrated me I would just hit the bypass and throw it in the done pile and move on to the next one from the to~do~pile(yeah I know cheating but...). Impressed me for a sub $2 wally special.
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by vov35 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:50 am
I will laugh if this is a persistent vulnerability.... what model was it?
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler. And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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by OrangePick » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:55 am
It's 50mm and is the one in this video (same packaging): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGpLoxiYxTsand I think the same as Wiz's video (but different packaging) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O94E_JOtqW0Again, all the pins in the one that fell apart are standard pins -- NO security pins, despite claim on the packaging. The replacement I got will rake open in about 2-3 swipes every time. I've SPP'd it too, but it's so tempting to just rake it -- even after setting a few pins. You can definitely see the circular marks on the sides of the lock.
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by bigfatton » Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:13 pm
I just bought one of these too, and I have successfully SPPed it a few times now, but I was surprised to see here that it has secruty pins. I've never picked anything before with security pins, and found this a little more difficult than usual, but not that bad. The number I have on the box i bought the lock in is 161-40001. is this the same lock? it does say high security and it's a brinks brass padlock.
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by Josh252 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:02 pm
I have the same lock from wallxxxx (insert profanity) and it also fell apart in the same manner as previously described with light standard ssp methods. The lock i have 2"50mm 661-50001 "Max security" contains no spool or serated pins whatsoever. The lock is less than 6hours new and i successfully picked it multiple times with little effort leisurely sitting on the couch i do not recommend this lock to anyone. I am a beginner and found it easy not quite as easy as master #3#5 but not much more difficult. Better off putting your cash towards a quality lock.
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by atticRR » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:33 pm
Stupid newb question. Whats the little hole for on this lock? The tiny one on the same face as the keyway. Thanks all.
I punched punctuation right in the face!
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by cledry » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:36 pm
atticRR wrote:Stupid newb question. Whats the little hole for on this lock? The tiny one on the same face as the keyway. Thanks all.
A drain hole.
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by atticRR » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:39 pm
ah. i see. was hoping it did something nifty like allowing the plug to come out. I overthought that one! Thanks.
I punched punctuation right in the face!
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by kfol13 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:47 am
Hey, I'm new to lock picking and i went to Walmart looking for a padlock to start out on, of course i picked this one  . after about 30 min of trying i gave up! i went and to a master lock and did that no problem.... this led me to wonder, is the short hook the best for this job? Also how much pressure should i apply with the short hook to each of the pins to set them? thanks for the help kfol13
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