Impressioning a Control Key for Best Interchangable Cores

[yoyoceramic]

Hi everyone. I have sucessfully impressioned 2 change keys from my "Best" Brand 6 pin lock on my door. My lock is master keyed and it has a removable core.

I would like to know what is the best method to impression not a master key, but a Control Key (the key that is used to remove the core from the lock). I have 7 key blanks at my disposal.

Cheers!

[randmguy]

Your best bet is to forget about trying it. Getting caught with it would result in expulsion. If you were lucky that we be all they'd do to you. I am a locksmith for a university. I don't really have a problem with someone picking my locks or even picking the sleeve to pull a core for a giggle. But making a control key is a BAD idea. Not only do you run the risk of finding yourself with criminal record you can also ruin the life and professional reputation of whoever does the locksmithing for your university. I do not have unlimited access to the control keys for our dorms simply because I don't want the worry of being accused of misusing them. They are in the vault at the security office and I have to check them out each time I need to use them. The same is true for master key sets. They are all secured (under video surveillance) when not in use and checked out each day.

I understand that it is a challenge to impression a control key but a safer idea would be to buy a used core from a local locksmith and impression that.

As for how its done, I have never tried it. Any lock I didn't have a control key for I simply removed and called Best to see if they had a bitting on record for that lock.

[yoyoceramic]

Thanks for the warning. I will take heed of your words...honestly...thanks.

[yoyoceramic]

"Picking the sleeve"...what does that do? Does that pull the entire core in its entireity out of the Larger cylinder?

[Yossarian]

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/
Well, but basically on the bottom of the lock are 6 or 7 holes that are opposite of the pins. Now the guy made a tension tool that would go in the bottom of the lock and had fingers pointing down that would catch these holes. Now by doing this he was able to pick only the control pins since it would turn the whole cylinder not the locking part. Hope that made sense. Also I would not suggest doing this in a dorm if that is where you are. Just doesn't seem like a good idea.

By the way which college are you at?

[randmguy]

Yes there is a special wrench used just for that. It may seem hypocritical to tell you this after all the gloom and doom from before, but no one is going to get really nervous about the idea of you crouched in front of a room for 3 to 30 mins (and yes it has taken me that long to accomplish if the spool pins are still there).

And if you're planning on swapping locks with a friend just to freak them out, be careful. Most institutions using the Best SFIC system keep records on where a core has been installed. If your purpose is more criminal there aren't that many places that sell best keys that wouldn't remember someone coming in to buy only key blanks.

[Yossarian]

Ohh no people think it is really cool. SOmetimes I get weird looks but I don't worry about it. Mostly people are just like "He y wow what are you doing?". But a control key has more of a potential of being a problem, and I can't say that I didn't joke with a friend about how it would be funny if you could swap everybody's lock durning like spring break and post little signs that say "Your lock is on somebody ele's door, go out and make some new friends!". Though I wouldn't do something like that it would be funny.

[yoyoceramic]

I was under the "impression" that the special tension wrench displayed in crypto.com will only work once the core has been removed from the larger cylinder.

I guess my question is can you use this tension wrench to pull the lock right out of your door?

Thanks

[salzi684]

Yes, you can use the tension wrench to pull the lock right out of the door. If you couldn't, there wouldn't be much point in picking the control line.

[salzi684]

This topic has only been up for what, five days or so. How is it that it has allready been viewed almost 8000 times? Some of the posts that have 5 pages don't even have that many views.

[Chucklz]

Probably every High school kid who has SFIC in their school is reading this thread.l Remember things around here get sucked into the google behemoth.

[lockpickroy]

The almost 8000 views (wow) also may be in part due to the matt blaze crypto page on best. But I am just guessing