whee..... new picks

by **chrometsuba** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:05 am

Just received an envelope from Varjeal...

, these picks are small... i gotta start looking at the rulers people put in their pictures for scale =)

There are lots of reviews of the Raimundo picks written by people far more skilled then me, so I wont bother. Just wanted to say how cool they are, and compliment Varjeal on his great services.

by **triman247** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:29 pm

Did you get slim-line picks (seeing as your not in the U.K., I guess not.) or were you just expecting something bigger?

triman

by **digital_blue** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:07 pm

I believe it would be the raimundo Bogota picks that he got. And since we're on the topic....

Like black freakin' magic I tell ya!

db

by **chrometsuba** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:50 am

yes, Raimundo Bogota pick set.

my precious....

by **Mad Mick** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:10 am

chrometsuba wrote:yes, Raimundo Bogota pick set.

my precious....

Be prepared to spend a heap of cash on new locks to open, once the Bogotas have gone through the ones you have already.

by **chrometsuba** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:53 am

you Raimundo..... you.....

I picked up a cheap cylinder today on the way home from work, and spend a few minutes picking it with the diamond pick since i haven't had much luck in the past with rakes... ripped the lock apart and set it up with two pins to practice, then 3... just for fun, i popped the bogota in... opened... tried again... opened..

the phone rang, and i went to answer the phone, and it popped open almost on its own with me just pulling it out...

so after my call, i try my padlock... a few seconds to figure how to get around the biting... a few strokes and its opened...

this pick is cheating it.... its like the skeleton key dad always said was just on cartoons....

now i need a lock with some security pins to play with...

Thanks for the awesome tool Raimundo :lol:

by **Mad Mick** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:22 am

chrometsuba wrote:...this pick is cheating...

That quote sums up the Bogota perfectly. :lol:

If I had Ray's expertise and Trump's business sense, the lock manufacturers would be bleaching their underwear. :wink:

by **chrometsuba** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:45 am

question for other people with this pick,

Ive been using a very light tension, and slowly sliding the bogota over the pins, a bit slower then you would typicaly insert a key... definatly not fast enough to bounce the pins though, and it seems to open within a few passes.

What techniques are other people using?

gah... i must stop using this and go back to practicing with the diamond =)

must take the long road to picking... must take the long road... :lol:

by **Gordon Airporte** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:11 pm

What techniques are other people using?

Gentle lifting and rocking. Once a pin sets and firms up it wants to slide down into a valley so the peaks can work on the adjacent pins.
I love this tool for basic locks, but I'll admit that I have no luck using it with security pins. It's great for getting an inital false set with spools, but I havnen't found the technique for getting them opened all the way.

by **digital_blue** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:47 pm

Gordon Airporte wrote:
What techniques are other people using?

Gentle lifting and rocking. Once a pin sets and firms up it wants to slide down into a valley so the peaks can work on the adjacent pins.
I love this tool for basic locks, but I'll admit that I have no luck using it with security pins. It's great for getting an inital false set with spools, but I havnen't found the technique for getting them opened all the way.

I can recall one occasion where I was up against a spool with only Ray's picks and was having a nasty time of it. I raked a few times, got the false set on the spool, then pressed my thumb up against the plug to hold the tension. I then swapped tools and used the Bogota Pick to lift the spool past the shear line and viola! Easy as pie.

db

by **chrometsuba** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:09 pm

Gordon:

I tried that just now, and it works great for me on my cheap locks. Is this the same as jiggling? And will it work as well for keys which have a hump as opposed to a dip? ie: locks with long pins in the middle and short pins on the ends, as opposed to short in the middle and long in the ends?

DB:

you make it sound too easy =)

by **digital_blue** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:50 am

chrometsuba wrote:DB:

you make it sound too easy =)

Well it was. There things ARE like cheating sometimes.

db

by **h3x1lu2** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:51 am

did you get these picks from

http://www.varjeal.com/

?

by **h3x1lu2** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:01 pm

I tried to send my order so his sales email address...but it came back and said the email didnt exist

did i do something wrong here? heh

by **h3x1lu2** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:33 pm

got it...nvm

whee..... new picks

whee..... new picks

bagotas...where you got them

my order failed

heh

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