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My Bogota review.

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My Bogota review.

Postby Mad Mick » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:30 am

This post is loooooooooong overdue.


I have several sets of raimundo's hand-made Bogota and Sabana style picks. As previously mentioned in other threads on LP101, these picks have to be used to be really appreciated. Pictures, although very impressive, don't really do them much justice.

In the first image, here, you can see the original Bogota set, comprising the Bogota rake and a half-diamond (which can be inverted and used like a hook), both of which have a tensioning tool as a handle. For those interested, the idea was conceived, by Ray, whilst in Bogota, Columbia. The method of use, in Ray's own words, is to "Insert the rake and quickly jiggle it (like you had too much coffee...)"

These tools are extremely effective against security pins. 'Pulsing' the tension also helps.

The second image, here, shows the original set, but inverted, which is used for locks mounted in the inverted position (Euro-style) Again, both tools have a tensioning tool as a handle.

The third image, here, shows a Sabana and hook combo. Again, both have tensioning tools for handles. The advantage of the Sabana, is the positioning of the peaks toward the front and rear of the keyway and a lower middle-section, to allow for low-setting middle pins.

The fourth image,here, shows the Sabana with an ergonomic handle. The design of the ergonomic handle requires that the tool is looped over the middle (bird) finger, to increase control/stability, and the remainder of the handle is gripped between the thumb and index finger. Without knowing this, some may incorrectly use the index finger through the loop.
You do not have proper control over the tool this way.
Another advantage of the ergonomic handle, is that the tool cannot be dropped. If ordering ergonomic handles, stating ring-size of the middle finger can be helpful towards getting a good fit. (I have very large hands and fingers, so had to do a little tweaking.:wink:)

The fifth image, here, shows an inverted hook with an ergonomic handle. Again, the method of use is to loop the pick around the middle finger, and the application is for inverted locks.

The sixth image, here, shows a rake for double-sided wafer locks. Note the off-setting of the peaks/valleys of each side of the tool. This is to allow for the staggering of the wafers in double-sided locks.

The seventh image, here, shows another rake for double-sided wafer locks. (Again, note the off-setting.) This tool has a
crimped washer to limit the amount of force applied to the wafers.


The finish on all of these tools is mirror-like and this is not purely for cosmetic purposes, although the tools are quite pleasing to the eye. The smoother the tool, the less wear effected upon the lock. Also, feedback and technique are enhanced when using a tool which glides effortlessly within a lock. Amongst raimundo's previous work experience is a career as a jeweller.

The craftmanship which goes into these tools is testament to his creative design as a lock-picker and his finishing skills as a former jeweller.

These tools are now exclusively available here. Contact for pricing and turn-around details.

I hope you can enjoy them as much as I have.

If anyone else out there has these tools, please feel free to post your opinions in this thread.

Regards,
Mad Mick.
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Postby Chrispy » Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:01 am

Good post Mick. :)
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Postby grit1 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:11 am

Sounds like I'm going to have to get around to making some when I get back home to my shop [i'm at college right now]. Christmas vacation project perhaps. ~Grit.
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Postby digital_blue » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:51 am

I have said it before, and I will say it again here...

These tools are like black freakin' magic! I can not say enough good about them. Owning these tools is, in my opinion, a portal through which every lockpicker must pass. Honestly. They are fantastic. If they don't work well for you... it's you.

As I write this, on my left is my friend Sean. He has been using a set of Bogota picks that I gave him tonight and he is giggling like a schoolgirl as the locks are falling open. On my right is my friend Colin. Before tonight, he has never picked a lock. He has been successful with Ray's tools as well.

It was really only coincidence that brought me to this thread right now while my friends are using these tools and getting great results, so I just had to come in here and tell you all about it.

Cheers!

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My new bogata's..

Postby Frazzled Penguin » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:08 pm

Hey everyone, My real name's Sean... I just received a set of Bogata's from DB and I have to tell you, it's making me giggle like a school girl as the locks are just falling open!

Long and short of it, They rock. I endorse this product. I mean, as much as the endorsement of a Frazzled Penguin is worth..
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Postby Exodus5000 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:23 am

I've spoken with Raimundo about these picks a few times, and i've attempted to make my own set (with mediocre success.) With everyone raving about these picks I think im going to purchase a set directly from the man himself. I love my hooks, but i've not been able to find any rakes i'm happy with. Maybe this is a better rake-alternative.
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Postby Mad Mick » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:51 am

Exodus5000 wrote:Maybe this is a better rake-alternative.

It's like buying gold bars for 20 cents each.
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Postby bonez » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:45 pm

i agree
i have bogota's totally awesome haven't looked at my
southords since i got em.
every one should have a set buy em today!
stop reading go go now buy em :wink: :wink:

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Postby illusion » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:59 pm

bonez wrote:i agree
i have bogota's totally awesome haven't looked at my
southords since i got em.
every one should have a set buy em today!
stop reading go go now buy em :wink: :wink:

:D


oi.. er mate??

Has raimundo been paying you by any chance??

just wanted to know if you were free to advertise my brand new patented "nose bump key"? - it is gonna be a big seller and you'll do my cause wonders.

what do you say? - do we have a deal?

J/K: yeah, mine are all copies, but work well :)
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Postby bonez » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:38 am

:lol: :lol:
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Postby Raccoon » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:23 am

You are in a maze of twisting little passages, all different.

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Postby digital_blue » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:57 am

My bad. Hotlink protection is turned on. Type the URL directly into your address bar and it should work. It'll be fixed tonight.

Cheers!

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Postby stlbolt » Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:41 am

What are these tools made out of?
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Postby Aqua » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:42 am

I'd say street-bristles - just like in Raimundo's 'How to make them?' guide.

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Postby stlbolt » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:44 am

Oh thank ya ;)
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