what's the tool?

by **fert** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:46 pm

Do you know how called this tool?

http://www.warning.dp.ua/keys/svertish1.jpg

That tool for openning lever locks, but what is the name of technics(method)?

by **Varjeal** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:19 am

Just a guess, but that looks like a force tool, and definitely not an NDE one.

by **Keyring** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:25 am

Actually I suspect it's a curtain breaker. Sort of partially NDE. I must admit I never quite got the hang of the exact reason behind using these. It's not for actually picking the lock though. Something to do with making access to the levers easier?

by **illusion** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:29 am

not 100% NDE if it is a curtain breaker... it allows access to the back of the levers to take a reading... I've never seen one to be honest so I don't know if it is.

by **Keyring** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:49 am

Yeah, Illusion, the reason I'm puzzled is because I've on both the BS locks I have it seems as though you'd be able to take an impression (back or front) without damaging the curtain, so I must be missing some concept.

by **illusion** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:03 am

The Profit does not need one, and neither does the Invincible..

but the Chubb 110 and 114 do it seems.

by **Keyring** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:09 am

Ah, right. I'll have to buy one of those then...

(Oh rats! Another ellipsis!)

by **toomush2drink** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:20 am

Why buy something if you have no use for it ? You dont need to buy a special curtain breaker as the decoder kits that require one already come with one.

by **pinky** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:21 am

the 110 does not require a curtain breaker as its pontless trying to impression a 110 lever, they are all identical, and its only of use on the 114 in conjuction with a pin and cam.

this tool could be for a number of uses, old cabinets, old overlifter etc etc

by **Keyring** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:27 am

Toomush: I meant I'd have to buy one of the locks which needs a curtain breaker, so I could see why it needs it. (I wouldn't buy a tool like that, as I've always thought they looked easy to make. The pin and cam could take a bit longer though!

)

So (Pinky) it would be the 114 I'd need to buy to find out why it needs the breaker.

by **workstation** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:58 am

The image is of a tool for opening (double-bitted) lever locks by brute force.

To use: insert, and turn hard!

I don't think that type of tool has a specific English name. The word "svertish" is Russian, but I don't know what it actually means in general, only that what you have there is one of them. I'm sure some member will know.

I think this is where the image originally came from :

http://kriminalist.com/staty36.htm

Kriminalist.com, incidentally, is an interesting Russian site comparing different locks, doors etc. The site won't let you translate it with a web translator, so if you want to read it in English, you'll probably have to cut and paste the text into a translator with the mouse.

by **Keyring** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:17 am

Good find Workstation. Here is the definitive explanation:

Now I will describe about the methods of the triggering of suval'dnykh locks with the aid of "svertysha". Svertysh (thievish slang) - special attachment for the scrap of the locking device of lock for the purpose to move cross bars to the position is unlocked. About svertyshi for the breaking of the drum mechanism of lock 4 already he wrote, and now arrived the turn of suval'dnykh locks. on the market appeared an enormous quantity of suval'dnykh locks both domestic and imported production. Be dismantled by which of the locks it is better, it is very complicated, if you are not specialist in this region. In order to safeguard you from the pilferers and to save your money with the purchase of lock, I write these lines. Under laboratory conditions the tests of the following locks were conducted: Cisa-El6bor, Class, S.erber, Mottura, Kerberos, Mettem and the senate. But in order not to load article by illustrations, I broke it into two parts. Experiment began from the fact that the turner uncle vas, with the aid of the mat and the lathe, in all for the floor of hour and the bottle of vodka, on the sketch prepared svertysh. Here strictly and he (svertysh, but not uncle vasya).

So now we all know

by **Omikron** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:32 am

workstation wrote:The image is of a tool for opening (double-bitted) lever locks by brute force.

To use: insert, and turn hard!

I don't think that type of tool has a specific English name. The word "svertish" is Russian, but I don't know what it actually means in general, only that what you have there is one of them. I'm sure some member will know.

I think this is where the image originally came from :

http://kriminalist.com/staty36.htm

Kriminalist.com, incidentally, is an interesting Russian site comparing different locks, doors etc. The site won't let you translate it with a web translator, so if you want to read it in English, you'll probably have to cut and paste the text into a translator with the mouse.

Yes, they appear to have their servers configured to respeond differently to translation services than to normal browsers.

However, if you watch closely, the translated page flashes on the screen for a split-second before it is redirected to the error page. If you're quick, or if you have dial-up, you can press the STOP button on your browser and it will cancel the redirection, allowing you to read the page!

Hope that helps you read the site.

by **mickgr** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:09 am

looks like a barrel and curtain turner

by **nicholls** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:40 am

kind of similar to my curtain aligner that i cut :wink:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e252/ ... ligner.jpg

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