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Random idea on mechanical bump tool and/or mechanical rake

Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.

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Random idea on mechanical bump tool and/or mechanical rake

Postby pizarro » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:39 pm

ok, this is probably a silly idea, and a bit off the wall, but here goes....


everyone (ok, I know not EVERYONE) are making lock picking tools (e.g. rakes) from hacksaw blades.

Hacksaw blades are similar to jigsaw blades.

jigsaws rescipricate back and forth.

Ok. so by cutting and shaping a selection of jigsaw blades, is it possible to utilise a batter powered jigsaw as a rake and/or bump key?



Did I say this was a stupid idea? I think so....

I know that most jigsaws would be too powerful, but you get the idea.
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Postby Chrispy » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:03 pm

I can remember discussion regarding this a while back....





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Postby Shrub » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:24 pm

Its been suggested quite a few times, i think the last one was toomush, ive tried it and only succeded in cutting the pins a cut smaller so i couldnt get it to work.
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Postby Omikron » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:19 am

Shrub wrote:Its been suggested quite a few times, i think the last one was toomush, ive tried it and only succeded in cutting the pins a cut smaller so i couldnt get it to work.


Hmm...that would be an interesting way of doing some destructive entry. Use this method to saw through all the bottom pins, then the top pins, and perhaps even some of the springs. Then just pull out the remaining spring bits with a broken key extractor and you've got a cylinder with no combinated chambers! ;-)
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Postby maxxed » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:37 pm

A jigsaw may be too much for this application but maybe attaching a bump key to a palm sander might be worth a try.
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Postby illusion » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:56 pm

This would seem a bad idea, as it would cause more damage than is worth UNLESS you could find a material which is entirely non-abrasive.

I reckon you'd end up with a destructive entry were you to try this, if only by battering the bottom pins to an early grave.
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Postby The Pindropper » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:11 am

I take it you would be talking about a Jigsaw that has a pendulum motion :?: even so the distance between its deepest and shallowist cut would probably mean that the blade would leave the keyway (and mark the door).
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Postby clockwork orange » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:50 am

recently i just got an ld electric toothbrush off my dad to make a lock ick out of, we opened it up and we founds a small piston thing in it when you switch it on the metal pin at the top moves back and forth so when you put the brush head on it transforms it into a rotary and a back-forth movement, this isn't as powerful as a jigsaw so it may work? try to look at some electric toothbrushes and see how they work.

p.s. anotherway of using the jig saw would be to grind down the balde to make it thinner so it could enter the lock swithc it on and push firmly upwards cutting the lock in half viola open sesame.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:56 pm

HAHAHAAAAA ohhh man, a sawsall huh.. or recipricating saw ehh mate?

Well you can try my dewalt.. but you might as well cut throguh the dor bud.


whats next in here Circular saws foorrr.... SUPER FAST TENSION RESETING!

Or Drills used to open abloys faster cuz they turn..

Buy a hook.. and a tension wrench and have a ball

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Postby Knows-Picker » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:59 am

ok, here is the closest thing that I have made with about 90 percent sucsess rate that uses the same theory. I use a standard L rake ( the one that is long and has about 6 little humps on it) and a
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battery operated pumpkin carver. You can only get these around halloween, so when october comes around, pick up a few of them as they are excelent tools for several uses and only run about 4 dollars for the tool and 6 tips.
The one that I got has a pumpkin carving "tool" inserted into a recipricating end of the the tool, and when you push the button it works like a mini sawzall and cuts the pumpkin. What I did was take the pumkin carver apart, take the carving tool out, and then insert a L rake into the holder of the carving tool. Re-insert the peice into the handle, and voila! You now have an electric rakeing tool. I have 2 of these that I use, one with a L rake and one with a W rake.
I also use a 3rd tool for sanding my home made picks. What I do is when I am at the final stage of pick making, I put it into the pumpkin carver with the pick sticking out of it. I thin fold a peice of sand paper over the pick so that it is contacted all the way around and then hit the button on the pumkin carver. This will do the sanding of the pick in about 1/10 of the time that it usually takes, and is a great way to finsh off your picks.

Hope this gives you a little help.
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Postby Shrub » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:11 pm

Can you guess the SPM or SPS for us? that is the strokes per second or minute, is it a fast thiong?

I would like to see a pic of them or one of them as it sounds interesting and maybe the thing to use with bogotas,
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Re: Random idea on mechanical bump tool and/or mechanical ra

Postby jimb » Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:47 pm

I have considered the jig saw idea. In fact Wal-Mart has a B&D battery powered one for $40. I figured it might have too much power, but I still think it could be made to work.

If a switch could be rigged to where when you depress the trigger it would just shoot enough juice to quickly jerk your pick in and out once or twice, then I think it has a chance to work. Or if you installed something to make it a variable speed then I think it has a chance. Or if you put a Bogota style pick on it then I think it has a chance.

I think I'll wait until October and try the pumpkin carver.
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Postby Knows-Picker » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:40 pm

I will take a picture tom and post it. I have a web cam that I could take a short video of it so that you could see what the spm are, I could not even venture a guess. It does seem as though it would be several hundred though. It is black and orange of course what with the halloween theme and all, I will take a couple of pictures of the mod as you do need to change the blade to accept picks, but it is really so simple I wouldn't even call it a mod. I should have it up by tommorrow, but bear with me as I am working a double tom, so maybe sunday. Either way you can buy these year round at close out stores, if your lucky. I found mine around july I think. I will keep you posted.
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Postby Shrub » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:15 pm

Theres really no rush at all, we dont have the carvers around here if at all in the country but its just somthing ive not heard of before and sounds like a decent conversion so am interested,

Please dont rush on my account for you to only get a 'thats nice' comment from me lol,
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Postby Knows-Picker » Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:52 am

Ok, here are the pics that I promised. The first one I have placed the south-ord electric pick (3 "C" cell size") next to the pic only for a size refference. Hope that this works, I am using clickable thumbnails from photo bucket. have a look.


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