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7 Pin Tubular Lock Breakdown & Cutaway Photos

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7 Pin Tubular Lock Breakdown & Cutaway Photos

Postby mh » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:33 am

Hi,

Tonight I digged up a tubular lock again and wanted to find out why it's so hard to pick it pin-by-pin...

Here's the lock:
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It's a no-name cheap 7-pin tubular cam lock.
The long screw on the right was of course not part of the original lock, there was a brass pin flush with the lock, which I had to drill out to open the lock. The screw just replaces that pin.

On the top right hand side, you can see the inner parts of the lock:
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The parts you can see are:
1) The core (the "shiny" chrome plated part). It's the longest part, it goes from the left (front of the lock) all the way to the right (back of the lock)
2) The "front" pins that stick out of the core to the left
3) The inner housing (it goes around the middle part of the core, and it can be fixed to the outer housing with the pin or screw mentioned above)

As you can already see, the parts of the pins that stick out correspond exactly to the key cuttings. While you can't SEE this when the core is mounted inside the housing, you can potentially FEEL it, or at least tools can use the effect - longer pins have more pressure from the springs. That's a major weakness of this lock and it's the reason why the various impressioning methods (tubular picks, plastic pens, toilet paper rolls, and so on) work.

Here is a picture where the core and the inner housing are separated:
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The "front" pins are still sticking out of the core, and you can now see the "back" pins sticking out of the inner housing. All the "back" pins are the same.
Were they of different lengths, matching to the front pins, to make the total length of each pinstack the same, then decoding and impressioning would be much more difficult.
I believe that more expensive tubular locks have that feature, along with different springs as well.

However, the "back" pins are rounded at their front. That's one of the reasons why single-pin-picking is so difficult: They simply won't set. When applying torque, you can push a "front" pin until it reaches the shear line. It will stop there, so that you could decode the length, but it will not STAY there, because the "back" pin will not hold at the shear line, because of its round head...
I think the effect is a little bit different from that on illusion's lock in this thread:
viewtopic.php?t=11134

Here is a picture of the pins:
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Please NOTE that I made a MISTAKE when placing the pins for this picture:
I placed all of the "front" pins the wrong way around.
The effect is this: As you can see they are serrated, all of them have 1 or even 2 thin cuts around them. However, these cuts do not block at the shear line, as the picture would indicate, but on the front side of the plug. Not sure why the manufacturer chose this option, and I'm not sure if it was maybe just a mistake.


And now the cutaway:

It's not very nice, but effective.
These are the plug and the inner housing, both cut with a Dremel cut-off wheel:
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And this is the lock, with "windows", so I can see the pins at the shear line:
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Hope you still like it :)

Cheers,
mh
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Postby Shrub » Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:36 am

Have you thought of cutting the case so its only held together by 3 very thin stays then slide it in a good fitting clear perspex tube?

Nice guide that :wink:
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Postby undeadspacehippie » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:19 pm

Thanks MH - a nice companion for my Illusion guide. I'm still not up to snuff on the regular locks (5 pin tumblers) so I will stay away from the pile of tubulars I have (only have keys to 2 or 3 of them) until i get a bit better at single pin picking.
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Postby illusion » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:37 pm

Oh man... I thought I had already posted on this thread to say wll done. :oops:

Nice work mh - good pictures, nice descriptions, and all roud it kicks as*!

Well done! :D
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Postby TODDTEK » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:39 am

Great Guide very well presented and the link to the other guide was a compliment .
Pictures and a thousand words come to mind .
Will be getting my dremel out if i can find it under all the brass swarf
lol.
Wll give that one a go .
:)
Also putting it in a clear plastic sleeve was a good idea.
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Postby dmux » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:04 am

:o :o wow thats awesome, nice breakdown
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Postby Double_Chin » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:35 am

That's amazing. I suppose that a picture is worth a thousand words, so I guess that's a couple thousand words? My understanding of tubular locks is now 10x what it once was. Great work, man.

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Postby lockedin » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:33 am

This is so insightful. Thanks :D
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Postby hobkkop » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:55 am

Great job! Really did help me to understand how these type of locks work.
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Postby Kaotik » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:49 pm

7 and 8 pin tubular locks are simple in design and a sinch to open, most of them can be opened well under 35 seconds.

Very good pictures and descriptions for each, good guide over all. 8)
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Postby arris » Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:20 am

looking really good,

gonna have to get me one of these to look at :)
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Postby blueduck » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:16 am

Thanks a lot. Very nice pics :D
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Postby Schuyler » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:58 pm

Missed this the first time around, glad someone dug it up. nice work mh.
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Postby VashTSPD » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:32 am

you say you messed up on the last couple photos, that the serrarations were on the front half of the pins, but looking back at the first few photos, there aren't serrarations on the front of the pins (omg!) so, are all the pictures wrong, or were the pins originally put in with the serrarations closer to the shearline?
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thankyou

Postby natastna2 » Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:56 am

thanks for the post, it really is very insightful to see a lock taken apart this way. Thanks again Ant.
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