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Plug Modding: Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty

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Plug Modding: Lefty Loosey, Righty Tighty

Postby Schuyler » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:36 am

So, So, So,

I'll tell you honest, I've had a drink and a time down at the bar prior to posting, but I'm pretty straight, so bear with me.

RIGHT! What we have here is an idea I got from an aside in one of Unbreakable's posts (Unbreakable, good guy!) where he noticed his plug was filed flat on the top of one of his locks. He was wondering why and happened to mention, off-hand, something to the effect of "I know this isn't to make one key lock it and not unlock it, as it's not filed properly" or something to this effect.

Soooo...I searched around a bit, but couldn't find anything immediately relevant on the subject.

Not to worry! Cause I pulled out the plug and thought "OK - file it, and make it work in one direction, but not the other with this here key, yah..."

I figured it out! It didn't take all that long to understand the concept, though I doubted myself a few times. Anyhow, now, for your viewing and reading pleasure. My lock that opens with the green key and closes with the yellow key! DUN DUN DUN!

Basically, whatchagottadoisthis:
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andabittathistoo:
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Basically! You file down two of the chambers in the plug in opposite directions. I chose the second and fourth for my operation. I used a couple of files, one was flat with a round bit, (one side rounded, one side flat, rather) to get me started, and one was square, to clear out the bits in the corners that were keeping it from operating cleanly.

Right-O - so to continue the explaination 2 MORE PICTURES! GIVE IT UP!

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This would be the green team, showing it's stripes. So, as you can see, on one of the filed down chambers, the bottom pin only rises up to the break between the top pin and the filed down part of the plug. But, on the other one, it rises up the 100% honest, FOR REAL, sheer line. Now, all you swank cats and kittens can figure out what this means, TO BE SURE.

Basically: The key can turn in the direction the plug had been filed down (the plug with the pin rising to the file marks, rather than the sheer line) but it CANNOT turn in the opposite direction, as the pin that rises to the sheer will happily keep moving in either direction, but the pin that rises to the filed portion will find itself all bound up when trying to turn against the filed direction.

I know, I know, you see it, I should get on with the sweet pics:

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Now, I hope this brings it home for everyone. The yellow key is cut in the opposite manner, with the pin that previously reached the sheer, now reaching only to the file line, and the filed line pin now reaching all the way up to the sheer.

Hot Dang, I think he's got it.

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The keys for your viewing pleasure. You can see a bit of the green behind the yellow (where the cuts change) and a bit of the yellow behind the green (ditto, baby).

Now,
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both keys for comparison sake (these are hand filed, thus the aluminum blanks, super swank for hand filing experiments.)

And!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db80AqoV-FY

That's the link to the divx formatted video of it in action. You can guess what happens.

[EDIT: Updated video from 2010:]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db80AqoV-FY



so, So, SO! Why bother?

Well, as I was beginning this project (scrapped one plug when I junked it up) I mentioned to my boss at work that I wasn't quite sure what the practacle use would be.

He responded,

"Well, Schuyler, this would have been great for us, as, when we finally gave you some extra responsibilities, we were comfortable with you locking up, but VERY hesitant to give you a key that would let you into the place any time you wanted..."

:lol:

anyway, this was a very fun project. I just got another order of 125+ locks in, so hopefully I'll be having some other fun plug mods in the relatively near future.

Also, if anyone's in NC - I need a place to stay tomorrow night. I'll be arriving in Wilmington at like 10:30, if you're sympathetic: show up and act like ya know me. I'll be in a suit and a cowboy hat.

HECK YES! Post it, LP101, POST IT!
Last edited by squelchtone on Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: schuyler's server no longer up, I found images on google and hosted them, URLs edited.
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Postby Schuyler » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:36 am

10:30 PM
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Postby zeke79 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:46 am

Problem I see with this is when someone with the true key turns in the wrong direction and tries to go back will be trapped against the bottom pin and will not meet the shear line. This can cause a lockout in some installations such as key in knobs.
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Postby Schuyler » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:52 am

Why, that is clever of you, Zeke-O.

Of course, the simple solution is to complete the revolution, which is absolutely impossible in some situations, which is occuring as I write this sentence.

Well, thank goodness I didn't file a true key. :P

Now I know it was genius, and not laziness.
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Postby Kaotik » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:07 pm

Very clever schuyler, and excellent photo's to boot.
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Postby digital_blue » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:59 pm

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Well done Schuyler. I really must try this.

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EDIT: This was too good not to sticky.
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Postby Schuyler » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:38 pm

Wah!

Ahhhhahahaha. Well, I'll tell ya, I was not expecting that. Hey, DB - after tonight (just in case it works) do you want to edit out the "Pick me up in North Carolina" part of that post. I figured it would just flutter and die and I wouldn't have my tipsy enthusiasm to follow me for the forseeable future :P

And thanks for the encouragement!
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Postby Shrub » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:19 am

There has ben a guide on making staf locks before where you modify the plug so one key can lock the lock but not unlock it and then a key that can both lock and unlock it, theres also a video on how to do it but as for two keys to do the differant functions i dont recall anything simular,

And druck as well :P imagine what you could do if sober,
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Postby digital_blue » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:23 am

Schuyler wrote:Wah!

Ahhhhahahaha. Well, I'll tell ya, I was not expecting that. Hey, DB - after tonight (just in case it works) do you want to edit out the "Pick me up in North Carolina" part of that post. I figured it would just flutter and die and I wouldn't have my tipsy enthusiasm to follow me for the forseeable future :P

And thanks for the encouragement!


Yeah, you bet. After a bit I'll clean the thread up and take out any unnecessary stuff.

Cheers,

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Postby What » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:19 am

Shrub wrote:There has ben a guide on making staf locks before where you modify the plug so one key can lock the lock but not unlock it and then a key that can both lock and unlock it, theres also a video on how to do it but as for two keys to do the differant functions i dont recall anything simular,

And druck as well :P imagine what you could do if sober,


that is the worst spelling i have ever seen you use...

and Schuyler props for making the guide, and screwing up a lock in the process... :P
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Postby Shrub » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:30 am

Yes, sorry about that,

I did it on the way out so didnt read it first,

And incase it didnt come across right, i meant well done Schuyler as well :wink:
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Postby unbreakable » Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:15 am

Great guide Schuyler!!

I actually saw a brief video on it somewhere, can't remember where, dont think it was nearly as good as your guide :wink:

Nice Job. :D :D

BTW, the 125 locks you got, do they come with keys?



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Postby unbreakable » Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:23 am

sorry for the double post, but I just found the video, and the original topic- http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?p=156578&highlight=practical#156578

It definetely can't compare to your guide. :wink:
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Postby supersteph » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:51 pm

if i owned my own shop or something, and had to trust some scum bag teenagers to close up the place everynight, i would use this.


or you know, if i had a boyfriend i wanted to pretend to give a key to the place to...

in all, a brilliant idea.

see what i mean, you should drink more often.
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Postby Wolfe » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:52 am

Thats acually pretty clever some times the simpliest salutions are the best i was thinking about this the other day. My salution was very complicated though. Like using a mutli function lock like a sidwinder lock in which the pins would lock the door and the scribed full key would unlock it.
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