Foley-Belsaw Order Form

[Varjeal]

This is it:

http://home.comcast.net/~oscar621/fb_foreign.pdf

'nuff said.

[bpc293]

i was reading posts of other members that said if you wait the price will come down. i didnt wait i called them up told them what i read asked what the best price she could give me and if i still got the pick gun and the key machine. she told me yes and the best price she could give me was $599 so i said ok. my course came some books where missing so i am waiting for the rest of it to be shipped out now.

[jimb]

i was reading posts of other members that said if you wait the price will come down. i didnt wait i called them up told them what i read asked what the best price she could give me and if i still got the pick gun and the key machine. she told me yes and the best price she could give me was $599 so i said ok. my course came some books where missing so i am waiting for the rest of it to be shipped out now.

They only send out 5 lessons at a time. I've read here I think that if you paid in full they will send you all the lessons upon request, but it's voids their refund policy if you change your mind about the course.

[bpc293]

i didnt no that. i think i am going to fly threw it anyway. i am not going to cancel i need that certficate so the wholesalers take me seriously.
thanks for the info

[sphl0ckman]

i didnt no that. i think i am going to fly threw it anyway. i am not going to cancel i need that certficate so the wholesalers take me seriously.
thanks for the info

I deffinantly recomend the course the wholesalers probbably wont really give it any credibility but I took it 11 years ago and it taught me a lot of stuff (not nearly enough to go out on your own like they claim but a lot) if you want to get wholesalers just get a DBA calling yourself a locksmith and apply my favorite wholesaler by the way is Clark Security because they are the only one that I have dealt with that you can check on your computer to see what they have in stock (at all 11 or 12 of their locations each listed indepenently on the same screen) and what your price is although you do still need to use their huge paper catalog to find what you need in the first place but it helps a lot.

[ldnlksmth]

I took the course and really enjoyed it. I did learn stuff about locks I don't see everyday. Like everything mass produced, some of it was a bit out of date, but it's still a great starting point. here, a DBA doesn't mean anything without the creds to back it up, and in some cases a tax number. I would caution anyone outside the US from ordering from foley-belsaw's 'wholesale division', as the brokerage fees to cross the border are pretty obcene.

[Bud Wiser]

I'm taking the course too right in my jail cell here in Attica State Prison. I plan on starting a new carrier once I get out of here in 20 years for armed robbery. I can't wait to try out my new talents in the real world

j/k

[ldnlksmth]

therein lies the trouble with faceless education and capitalism: never know who you're releasing information and tools to. I got not only a boat-load of opening tools (vehicle and picks) from them, but also some great books on safe opening, as well as tools to do it with. I'm not even in the same country as them and they have no idea where my stuff's going. I've never spoken to them except to confirm a shipping address once, I order online with a refillable credit card and away I go...

[Archive555]

I'm taking the course too right in my jail cell here in Attica State Prison. I plan on starting a new carrier once I get out of here in 20 years for armed robbery. I can't wait to try out my new talents in the real world

j/k

Indeed. I vote ban

[moosekey]

This just proves it. Study at home Locksmith courses are not a good thing for public safety. Not to mention they do not prepare a person properly for this trade or any other trade. I beleive in starting from the bottom like in the old days. Nothing wrong with apprenicing and learning from the tried and true old guys in this trade who know by decades of experience.


Go to any well established Locksmith shop and see if they run their business the Bellsaw Folley way.

[dev070]

So I found the FB locksmithing course just the other day. From the looks of this thread, it doesn't seem like it properly prepares you for a career as a locksmith. But does it provide you with sufficient information relative to its cost? I see they also provide you with lots of tools and manuals. What I'm asking is, even though you can't jump right into the field afterward, is it worth the pricetag to get you on your way?

[5thcorps]

I'd say it is. It teaches you the basics and a some more to help you have amuch better understanding. Once your understanding abilities are open you learn everything much quicker. And you don't have to apprentice under some grumpy ole ba$$turd with hygiene problems.

[freak13]

I've taken a couple of online courses, Phoenix State and Penn Foster. If you're looking for basic locksmithing information, they're not bad. But I'm also not the type of guy who thinks that you can learn everything you need to know from a book. As far as preparing you to go out on your own and start your own locksmithing business, it's a good foundation but far from everything you need to know. Talk to your local locksmith, ask questions, and see if he'd be willing to take you under his wing. By taking these distance learning courses, it may be enough to show your locksmith that you are serious about learning the trade. Start reading everything that you can get your hands on locksmith/lockpicking related.
As always the MIT guide to lockpicking is an excellent starting point, as well as "The Complete Book of Locks and Locksmithing" by Bill Phillips. You can easily find it online.

[bandito]

I enjoyed the course, I was always curious about it, seeing the ads in Popular Mechanics, and always having an interest in locksmithing I decided to take a course. I found that it was worthwhile and a lot of fun. I enjoy locksmithing as a hobby and maybe one day I might do it full time. I recommend the course.

[GpaSteve]

Im in the process of taking the FB course. Before taking the course I had little or no lockpick experience. Now I have learned a lot and may do some work on the side when I have completed the course. Would highly recommonend.