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European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.
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by BlackLOCK » Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:28 am
hello good people of the lockpicking community
me and my friend both locksmiths have been trying to pick the above padlock for ages we have bought the proper pick etc any help ideas would be greately welcomed 
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by Dark Angel » Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:02 am
Any chance of a picture or a link to a picture.
What tool are using to try and open the lock?
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by mbell » Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:39 am
Sorry, can't help you with picking techniques. They're a fantastic quality padlock. If I remeber correctly, RB Medical/Locktools sell a 2 in 1 pick specifically for this lock.
I'm assuming basically the levers must be lifted whilst applying tension, as with mortice 5 lever deadlocks but you probably already knew that.
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by Mad Mick » Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:48 am
For almost a hundred quid, that's a lock designed to keep more than the opportunist out. If you contact the manufacturer, giving your certification details, they may be able to help (if you check out).
Incidentally, what is the 'proper pick' which you have bought? What techniques have you tried? Have you tried to impression the lock using the appropriate key blank - if available?
If you are both genuinely locksmiths, you will be able to answer these questions with a degree of accuracy and knowledge.
 If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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by jason » Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:45 pm
The "Battleship" is a cracking padlock - it meets the requirements of all the major insurance companies over here and is used where you really want to keep people out.
MBell is right RB Medical make the right pick for this (and it's little brother the "Cruiser") and you should be able to contact them for this - if you are locksmiths you should be able to prove that to them.
One thing puzzles me though - most locksmiths call these locks by their name, how comes you didn't?
Not withstanding this fellow will happily tolerate sledgehammers, cold chisles, etc., the shielded shackle will hamper attack by croppers and he doesn't respond too well to ham fisted picking either - and you will need a steady hand to use hardplate drill bits to get at the guts of this lock (different thicknesses inside will not help your bits either).
I love these locks!!
sledgehammers make excellent back up picks!
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by toomush2drink » Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:56 pm
Slightly off topic but is the lockcentre any good for stock ? Are the prices good or average,service ok ? just trying to get more info on suppliers etc.
cheers toomush
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by jimprice » Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:47 am
The correct tools are a must in picking these padlocks.
the keyhole in the cruiser padlock is shaped like the number "9".
Some of the levers have anti-pick notches, and this can slow you down a lot unless you really understand the principle of picking better quality lever locks.
I have seen the battleship padlock picked open in under 10 minutes
Trying to impression a key to these locks is not easy, and i have only
been able to do this when the padlock is unlocked.
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by BlackLOCK » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:05 am
the pick im using is a BC Locksmith 2 in 1
the reason I didnt name the lock is my m8 just gave me it and said try and pick that as he hasnt been able to do so also im pretty new to the trade abit like most of you guys picking for fun for a year or so then started re-keying locks then master-keying for fun then for the shop then only just started fitting locks and stuff, so I appoligise should maybe have said that im a clued up apprentice  but hey  , also must say you's guys are all pretty sound and very helpful and you's dont suffer fools (meaning the guy who wants to open old BMW's or the guy in USA wanting to know how to pick open phone boxes) well done.
and Thanks for the help
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