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by VashTSPD » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:23 am
Ever once in a while I see someone (newb or experienced user) ask what and if there are security pins in a certain lock, I'm going to try and start a thread that could address some of the questions about locks with security pins and their locations. I'll start with pictures I have of an American lock clone I bought at Ace Hardware. Despite the generic Ace (hardware) brand name, this lock had quite a few security pins inside it. Including those cool serrated-spool pin hybrids.
The pins, left most stack is the first one the key touches when it goes in the lock:
The keyway, I couldn't seem to get a clear picture of this. Note how much it looks like the American keyway, same means of removing the cylinder too:
The key, same head as the American key:
The body, just so you know what lock I'm talking about:

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by VashTSPD » Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:32 am
I did the same thing for my Brinks Rekeyable too, here ya go.
The pins, regular bottom pins, but four of the five were the cool hybrids:
The body, a lot of people already know what this one looks like:
I didn't bother taking a picture of the keyway, it was the common KW1. You can also buy this padlock with the SC1 keyway.
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by Deathadder » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:31 am
"Definitely the nicest lock Wal-Mart ever gave me"
indeed... indeed...
Brinks Shrouded, 6 pins, 5 spoorated top pins and 5 serrated bottom pins.

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by VashTSPD » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:18 am
nice, did you have to drill out that pin on the side of the padlock or is their another way to get the cylinder out?
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by Deathadder » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:40 pm
i did notice upon the disassembly of the lock, that you can access the bottom of the retaining pin from inside the keyway, as opposed to what someone said. If you have a strong enough lever, I do believe you could force it out, or maybe heat it up first, then try forcing it.
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by VashTSPD » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:59 pm
And here's the pins from a Kwikset UltraMax Security Deadbolt:
Only three spool pins in their entire lock.
And I have the double cylinder deadbolt model (a lock on either side) and guess what? Only the cylinder marked "exterior" had security pins, they used all regular pins for the "interior" cylinder.
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by JackNco » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:18 pm
nice on dude, keep em coming
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by parapilot » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:49 pm
Just off hand...
Master 140
3 Spool, 1 serrated.
Glostal Euro (made be GEGE)
Tri Circle 256

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by JackNco » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:31 am
dude what did u do to the poor pins in that #140
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by parapilot » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:43 am
a few years of abuse! its also been used to make some comb tools.
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by JackNco » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:36 am
parapilot wrote:a few years of abuse! its also been used to make some comb tools.
Hush, thou shalt anger the mods
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by LockNewbie21 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:50 am
Great topic.
I vote sticky? Anyone else?
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by JackNco » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:11 am
could be a good one to keep hold of, so yep i second that motion!
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by zeke79 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:12 am
Not a bad idea at all. Done  .
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by LockNewbie21 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:39 pm
Cheers Zeke:P
I will take a medeco and a few diffrent schalge series apart. i think i have a few masters.
Might by a few more to
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