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[Chucklz]

If the entire core is a bit loose in the lock, this may not be a problem, but rather just how the IC system works. To decode, you will probably have to punch the pin stacks out. Keep them in the right order, and you will be fine.

[yoyoceramic]

See this is what I am not sure about. I should probably just ask some road tech (we dont get many IC cores in the shop). But after i punch the stacks out, can I make a control key if I have atleast one change key?? It doesn' t seem possible to me.

Thanks

[CaptHook]

If you have a change key and the master if there is one, yes. You have to figure out the bittings backwards, which is to say, measure your stacks (dial or digital caliper, stay away from vernier unless you have good eyes ), see where the shear lines fall, there will be 3 when compared to the 2 known keys, compare them to the known bittings of your master and your change key, and the 3rd possible shearline is your control shearline. You will have 4 pins in each chamber if it is a TPP system with only 1 master and 1 change key(top pin, master pin, control pin, bottom pin). Just remember to punch the stacks very carefully and only one at a time, everything has to be in the EXACT order it came out of the core.
Make any sense?
Chuck

[Chucklz]

It also helps to know if your system is A2, A3 or A4. There are online tools, from Schlage i think, that will help you.

[raimundo]

probably most of you already know this, but when taking the pins out of the lock, I suppose you will use a 1/16 pin punch, and do it one column at a time, work with a towel on the bench, to deaden the bounce and roll of the pins, and get a piec of corregated cardboard, with some of the corregations showing, such as light bulbs come packaged in, ink a large figure of a key on this, and lay the pin columns on this in order, keep the columns separated by at least two empty corregations, so that when you reach across it and your sleeve causes some of the pins to get into the next corregation, you can still see which column it all came from.

[yoyoceramic]

Hi thanks for the advice everyone - I really appreciate it. I will give this a try tomorrow and let you all know what i come up with.

Thanks

[CaptHook]

Hmmmmmm where to begin. I was preparing a tutorial on how to decombinate the core for yoyoceramic. I had a brain fart on remembering a term and searched the forum for sfic, and low and behold I found this....
http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?p=10927&highlight=#10927
Me thinks we've been duped guys. What do ya need the control key for yoyoceramic?
Chuck

[yoyoceramic]

Hi chuck. Sorry it took me such a long time to get back at you. You are right, I am a student who was interested in locks, I taught myself to impression, pick locks, and key up locks. I applied for a job for a locksmith here in las vegas, and I was accepted. If you're skeptical I can even scan up my service tecnician ID badge.

This is an honest case, and I have nothing to hide. I ended up selling him a new lock since we couldn't decode the lock. Sorry if you thought I was trying to trick you, but I am now a legit locksmith.

No need trying to come up with tutorial for me, I am guessing you would simply just condense the ic core pinning worksheet that we use in the shop anyways.

Thanks though.