making your pin/spring keeper for bogotas

[raimundo]

I have not been able to get all the parts to put this devise on the picks I have made and sold, so many of them are held together with a piece of plastic drink stirrer from the bar.

Sometimes, when I had an extra one, I would include it with an order that had more than one set, and the idea was that when you have seen one, if you are mechanical at all, you can make your own.

there are different kinds of safty pin, unfortunatly, in the stores here, I have only seen the wrong kind. so finding the right safty pin is the first step
safty pins have a part of the clasp that sticks up into the interior of the mechanism to prevent cloth from becoming entangled in the pin.
some of them are designed with a slope that actually defeats this purpose by haveing a slope that actually would cause this fouling. these also foul the ballpoint spring and make poor keepers for bogotas, you can make them work, but they are definatly problem makers.

The good saftypins, have a much more abrupt upward slope and do not guide the spring into problems. this is the right one to find.

there are various lengths and diameters of ballpoint springs, the good ones are not much longer than the one inch saftypin, and have a number of tight/close coils on both ends. these are the ones to choose.

lay the spring over the back of the closed pin near these tight coils and start screwing it so that the back of the pin is screwed into the tight coils until the tip of the coil spring snaps clear, then reverse screwing and screw the coil onto the pin, as it gets to the point where half the spring is screwed on, you will have to start compressing the spring as you screw it on, using the fingers of both hands on either end of the spring.
when you get it fully screwed on to the back of the pin, it will be bent and slightly compressed to accomodate the short length,
the final step is to start the end near the coil of the pin and lead it into the coil until the tight coils of the end of the spring are inside that coil, this creates a lock that will accommodate the curve of the bend

Remember that the picks are made with one curve smaller than the other pick and this only works well when that smaller curve is inside the larger one and not the other way around.

[freakparade3]

Thanks for posting this Rai. You had mentioned carrying bogota's like this but I could never picture how to do it.

[raimundo]

could someone who understands what I was saying make some photos showing how easily this is done?

The devise is very useful to some of us, as it can pin an easily lost small set of pick to the inside of your hat or shirt pocket. Others it seems just don't get it. I have had feedback from one or two members who actually on first seeing it decided to just destroy it with pliers to get at the picks, as they couldn't understand the rotation that will move it past the twist in the picks.
small picks can easily be lost, and this keeper if you learn its simple trick is useful for some of us.

Soon I will be no longer making picks for the season, and I will encourage and help with tips those who are making their own, there is no reaso why you cannot make them just as well as I do.

Some members are already doing it just as well, locknewbie and Kaotic both are excellent selftaught pickmakers who I believe learned after they joined the site, of course they are not showing bogota types, as they seem to be hooker.

[RangerF150]

I have had feedback from one or two members who actually on first seeing it decided to just destroy it with pliers to get at the picks, as they couldn't understand the rotation that will move it past the twist in the picks.

Name and shame them, I say

[Minion]

I'll have pictures up here in a bit. Following the instructions kinda makes it complicated; it almost seems natural once you get it

[Minion]

Materials:


Step 1: Start near one of the tightly coiled ends of the spring.


Step 2: Start spinning the spring while maintaining pressure from behind.


Step 3: Do this until that small end of the spring fully rotates around and "traps" the safety pin.


Step 4: Start threading the spring onto the safety pin.


Step 5: Finish the threading. Towards the middle to the end of rotating the spring onto the safety pin, you'll need to partially compress and maintain pressure while threading the spring onto the pin.


Step 5: Put your bogotas into their holder, and celebrate.

[raimundo]

Thanks, minion, I appreciate that so don't take what comes next as criticism, just sharpening the picture. OK


A couple of points, for myself, I typicall use the one inch safty pin, yours is larger, but to each his own,
The safty pin in the photo has the slope that leads into the clasp, and I avoid this on the one inch pins, as it leads the spring up the slope, I look for the pins that have a sharper slope there /\ more like that.
to get a spring onto a smaller pin, you must compress the spring, and the part about feeding the spring into the coil at the bend of the safty pin creates a pressure lock that grips the set so that they are not brushed out of the keeper

Thank you minion, don't take the exta paragraph negatively OK

[Minion]

I have a few of those 1 inch safety pins, but I found that this was easier to use (because the 1 inchers have that gradual slope, which caused problems).

I guess it gives a basic look of it

[dmux]

and i suggest you use these, i had some picks from rai with the pins attached and im like "ok il just put them in my pocket" next thing i knew, they were not there anymore and must have fell out when i took something else out, so either get a case or use the pins, the pins make them nice because you can attach them to anything, sox and other covert places

[samfishers]

there is one question that i am asking myself:

a bogota pick is like 2 picks side by side? right!

well if it is, why don't you just solder(?) them, so they could stay together forever.??

[Jaakko]

there is one question that i am asking myself:

a bogota pick is like 2 picks side by side? right!

well if it is, why don't you just solder(?) them, so they could stay together forever.??

No it isn't. A bogota pick is the one with only one "bump" and bogota rake is the...well, rake. Two different tools, but you usually just see them clipped together for ease of storage and transporting.

[maxxx]

I kinda like the cocktail straw holding device. Way too many cocktail straws end up in the landfill and this is a huge problem for waste management. Just think about it. At least 40 ft of every landfill sight is made up of cocktail straws. Its good to recycle.

Just kidding... the Bogata I recieved retain the straw holder, and are tucked into my main pick pouch nice and secure. They aint goin nowhere.

[muskratt]

this is the way to go. clip them on the inside of your pocket and then your ready to do flips

[awol70]

great idea! (wouldn't work with my bogata style,tho..)
any thoughts on a good storage medium ?
hpc cases are few and far between...

[jailersmith]

Got my Bagota picks from www.serepick.com yesterday. Thanks, Rai, for the craftsmanship and artistry. My solution for an inexpensive Bogotas keeper is 1/4 inch wide clear plastic tubing about 3 inches long. Fits snug enough to hold and can be stashed in a wallet, sock or trouser hem, or anywhere else.