FICHET F3D

[quintaux]

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http://www.alcof-securite.com/pdf/f3d.pdf
http://www.fichet-pointfort.fr/content/ ... nkEWJb.pdf
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPOD ... 853de4b45b

[quintaux]

http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPOD ... 9c54fbcb72

[mh]

Very nice, thanks for the info!

Looks like a cool lock design, typical Fichet stuff...
Unfortunately it has a ridiculous price tag

Cheers,
mh

[greyman]

Quintaux - thanks for the links. The Fichet F3D seems to have been in the pipeline for more than 5 years judging from the patent date. From the pictures in the patent it looks like a cross between a clock and a lock! Or maybe a kind of derivative of a DOM Diamant (as a friend mentioned to me) with the 3 dimensional key but also having a bunch of rotating cogs driven by the insertion of the key. The cogs drive some sliders that presumably have to line up. Sounds like a real nightmare to decode or pick.

mh - you said you'd found the price? Care to post that detail?

Also, does anyone have any further info on this lock? (Feel free to move to the advanced thread)

cheers

greyman

[jamesphilhulk2]

at first i thought this was spam

[mh]

spam usually doesn't contain the word FICHET...

Follow the second link, there's the price at the end of the article: 550 - 750 EUR, 30 - 50 EUR for a key. (I guess, I don't read French very well)

Cheers,
mh

[greyman]

That price is ridiculous! It'll be a while before anyone scoops one of these, I imagine. I'd like to ask Fichet for a sample - but they have never replied to any of my correspondence when I was asking for minor production details of even their old locks for my book, nor to anyone else I know who has tried to contact them.

[dougfarre]

550 euro for 1 lock? and 50 euro for 1 key?

[mh]

"le prix vendu pose est compris entre 550 et 750 EUR, en fonction du moment de l'intervention."
I guess there are people here who understand it properly, not me...

[Safety0ff]

"le prix vendu pose est compris entre 550 et 750 EUR, en fonction du moment de l'intervention."

So that's between 550 and 750 EUR - installed.

[rohi]

Maybe French locksmiths are very expensive, and you'll get a €400,-
discount if you install it yourself??

[greyman]

"le prix vendu pose est compris entre 550 et 750 EUR, en fonction du moment de l'intervention."
I guess there are people here who understand it properly, not me...

My translation (though I think some accents are missing, mh ) is along the lines of

" the installed sale price is between 550 and 750 EUR, depending on the time of the operation".

Doesn't make that much sense, unless you interpret that different prices apply depending on the time of day or something? It seems they are talking about the installed price though, not the price for the part only. Maybe they aren't intending to sell it over the counter to non-accredited lockies? I wouldn't be surprised, knowing Fichet's addiction to security through obscurity (and trying to price their product out of the hands of the hackers, which we all know is not going to work )

[mh]

it might be posé, but what's the difference anyway, people also don't take care of German umlauts properly...

I also had the thought they want to price it out of my budget...

Maybe the price also includes a lot of multi-point hardware etc.

I would be quite interested to see a picture of the actual lock, anyone found it?

Thanks,
mh

[Safety0ff]

it might be posé, but what's the difference anyway, people also don't take care of German umlauts properly...

I also had the thought they want to price it out of my budget...

Maybe the price also includes a lot of multi-point hardware etc.

I would be quite interested to see a picture of the actual lock, anyone found it?

I was looking for pictures as well.

Take a look on this page, it shows some hardware that runs the height of the door:
http://www.alcof-securite.com/serrures/ ... e_787Z.php

[Safety0ff]

On second thought, I'm not sure if that's included.
(Another link to it: http://www.fichet-pointfort.fr/rewrite/ ... ubrique=65 .)