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Information on Locksmith training, certification, licensing, and operating a business.
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by Servalite6354 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:28 am
Yes, what exactly does a "license-required" state mean? What is the license required for - to be a locksmith? Sorry if it's a noob question.
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by DPTR » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:52 am
Each state is different. I will base my example on North Carolina though-
When clicking on the state, click on "Locksmith Licensing Law"
Inside the PDF, there should be a section called "Exemptions" (for this example it is section 74F-16)
Here they list where lockpicking/smithing is allowed without a license. For this example Section 74F-16(5) states A property owner, or the owner's employee, when providing locksmith services on the property owner's property, so long as the owner or employee does not represent himself or herself as a locksmith. For purposes of this section, 'property' means, but is not limited to, a hotel, motel, apartment, condominium, commercial rental property, and residential rental property.
I interpret this as you are free to pick locks and use lock picking tools without a license as long as you are on your own property, and do not pose as a locksmith.
If you’re especially concerned, you can always ask a lawyer friend.
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by eurolock fan » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:29 pm
Thank God no license needed in West Virginia!
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by Imsaffor » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:27 am
Not so lucky here... California requires a Licence.
Couldn't find anything saying you couldn't have lockpicks though... just stating that you can't run a business as a locksmith without a licence.
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by mrlocknkey » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:14 am
Great post, thankx for the link! 
How Many Lock Smiths does it take to pick your lock?
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by Slyfox » Mon May 26, 2008 1:50 am
Nothing in ND , nothing at all lol. Fantastic.
~Bryce
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by Brianpojo56 » Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:33 pm
Even if your state doesn't require a license, you should be wary about carrying your picks around unless you have a work id or business card that says you (your name) is a locksmith, as they could easily be considered burglary tools. But then again, I almost got in a lot of trouble when I was 14 because I was walking around the neighborhood in the middle of the night with a big flash light. The cop told me that it was a burglary tool and he swore up and down that he knew what I was up to.
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by TN Hillbilly » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:19 am
Virginia will require a license in October if current legislation goes thru. Tennessee requires a license as of July 1st. You cannot legally possess lock by-pass equipment without a locksmith license. Picks, jigglers, and bump keys are specifically mentioned in the statute.
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by bcameron » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:59 pm
Virginia came through finally with this. Hopefully the days of trunkslammers who destroy, rip off, and cheat the customers is over. We had all employees fill out the registration forms and fingerprint cards this week to submit.
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by bcameron » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:04 pm
I should have said...is going through with this. It is not such a bad thing. There are too many problems with false ads in the phone books for locksmith companies that are 100's if not 1000's of miles away from here. They just call up Johnny come lately who learned everything on his own to come in to the business or residence to try and do the work and they keep a percentage of the total without ever lifting anything more than a phone to say...hello..A1 Locksmiths. No background checks, no telling if he made copies of the keys and sold them to shady individuals, no license, no insurance, no nothing.
I think locksmiths should be licensed and made to carry insurance. What happens if someone who has little or no schooling, no insurance and no license throws a deadbolt on a fire exit door so the business owner stops losing merchandise his employees are stealing? What happens when a fire breaks out and people die because the guy had no idea you couldn't do that? Too many what if's I guess.
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by transfer280 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:25 pm
here in tx $425 a year plus insurance (1,0000) plus continuing education every 2 years  , but it does keep alot of shade tree locksmiths out of the picture  It cost alot to be a locksmith here in tx
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by oi_punk » Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:10 am
much thank to cheeshead 
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by Lostreb » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:17 am
From what I have been able to gather, in 90% of the states, it is NOT illegal to carry a set of lockpicks, however, if you are caught picking a lock...... ANY KIND OF LOCK, then you'd better be able to prove that you are a licensed locksmith. I think this applies to all states but not to Washington, DC. It IS illegal to have a lockpick in your possession in DC unless you are licensed.
If anyone has anything different to add or to contradict, please do so as I am not an expert.......YET!
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by jimm1909 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:04 am
Lostreb wrote:From what I have been able to gather, in 90% of the states, it is NOT illegal to carry a set of lockpicks, however, if you are caught picking a lock...... ANY KIND OF LOCK, then you'd better be able to prove that you are a licensed locksmith. I think this applies to all states but not to Washington, DC. It IS illegal to have a lockpick in your possession in DC unless you are licensed. Las Vegas MapsIf anyone has anything different to add or to contradict, please do so as I am not an expert.......YET!
This is my understanding as well, although I am trying to get a definitive answer. Anyone else have any idea? Thanks in advance, -Jim
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by jimm1909 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:31 am
jimm1909 wrote:Lostreb wrote:From what I have been able to gather, in 90% of the states, it is NOT illegal to carry a set of lockpicks, however, if you are caught picking a lock...... ANY KIND OF LOCK, then you'd better be able to prove that you are a licensed locksmith. I think this applies to all states but not to Washington, DC. It IS illegal to have a lockpick in your possession in DC unless you are licensed. Las Vegas MapsIf anyone has anything different to add or to contradict, please do so as I am not an expert.......YET!
This is my understanding as well, although I am trying to get a definitive answer. Anyone else have any idea? Thanks in advance, -Jim
Any update to this? -Jim
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