warning do not buy lockpicks from this site

[lockpicker69]

http://www.idealcreations.net/order.htm

hi
i posted several days ago about these people.i have still not had my goods and would like to warn others about it before they make the mistake of parting with thier hard earned cash to these people.

[Jaakko]

I also would not buy from a place that as videos of lock raping as instructions...

[lockpicker69]

is there any way of getting this site removed or reporting them to someone?

[Mutzy]

Probably not. Welcome to the Internet.

All we can do is add it to our (LP101's) negative suppliers list.

[Jaakko]

is there any way of getting this site removed or reporting them to someone?

No and yes. You can't remove a website "just because you want", but you can contact them, credit card company or PayPal and the police and let them do what they do. Police possibly just files it under "not so rush", but you can easily get your money back if you paid with your credit card or PayPal.

[RangerF150]

Your not going to like me for saying this !
But, I can't believe that having been a member here for the time you have ,that you would consider buying junk like this !!

It's pure rubbish, aimed at script kiddie types who aspire to be James Bond in three easy steps

Get your money back, and go buy some decent kit.
A quick look through the threads on this site would point you in the correct direction.

Good luck

[horsefeathers]

you took the words out of my mouth Ranger. It is obviously a gimmick shop, like the hundreds of shops down any holiday beach resort. Full of tat and cheap junk.

To the OP - Just because you feel let down doenst mean that the whole enterprise must be closed. Maybe you are just unlucky and that they really have experienced unforseen delays. At least they communicated with you. Pester them or go thru credit card company/paypal to get your money back.

good luck and a lesson learned for us all!

[lockpicker69]

I was really only wanting both large and small tubular lock picks priced around a tenner to improve my spp. ok I could have made them but for that price I wanted to try this site out and see if they were any better than some of the lock picking tools/sites made in Asia.havent any of us ever made this mistake and purchased a load of junk like this before. Yes we all learn from our mistakes.
Yes maybe I got dragged in by the "Holiday beach resort" shop front and James bond in three easy steps that even some experienced locksmiths fall for.
I have emailed them 4 times I think that is enough pestering. It’s not my problem if they are back ordered, I have asked for my money back because of the delay and been ignored .Thanks for the advice I will try and get my money back through PayPal. As for getting the site closed down, shall we let other forum users have a say on this? One last note, I would like to hear from people who have had any products from this site.

[jimb]

I would like to hear from people who have had any products from this site.

I have bought from them on 2 occasions and not had a problem, but it has been a while. First ordered was a couple of years ago for a jack knife set they sell. It was pretty much junk. The second order was for the tubular tension wrench they sell and it I liked.

[mcm151201]

I received a Christmas present that was ordered from this site, I assume with no problems.

[blake1803]

The only thing of minor (minor) interest on that site is the tubular tension wrench. Useless and overpriced, but certainly novel.

[lockpicker69]

ok at least some people have had tools sent. i have made a claim through pay pal so will keep everybody up to date. thanks for all your replys

[nostromo]

Ideal Creations certainly advertises merchandise with some interesting twists! Everything SEEMS on the up and up, though over stated a bit, for a 'net efront that sells kooky kinda stuff.

That said, though, they don;t seem like mainstream locksmiths or distributors (like HPC, Southord), just people selling stuff that they make or contract the production out.

They also have 'stuff on the edge'. Like a spyshop. The Infrared filter that lets you see through clothing (check out the video!), and the laser guided slingshot is something from survivalist stores / neat tricks shops. Like the store I got a TV zapper and my Southord pickset from (who also sells airsoft guns, Meals Ready to Eat, Pepper Spray, and brass knuckles).

The Warded Lock Pick at http://www.idealcreations.net/ls04.htm looks like the same pick in the Wire's Guide to Toolmaking (is that title right?), which is also used as an Ace tubular tension wrench. If you look close at the picture of their "Tubular Lock Barrel Pick" at http://www.idealcreations.net/ols2.jpg, it sure looks like a 'Wire' tubular/warded pick. Four tools in one!

The "Key Chain Lock Pick Pro" looks like a chintzy aluminum body and a heat shrink tubing 'case'. The pick patterns are non-traditional - an auto jiggler blade, half ball, hook, long rake, and a double half diamond rake- instead of the usual hook, s rake, diamond combination. What it looks like you really get is double ended pick 'blades' which have to be held in a handle to use. All the sets seem to revolve around those pick blades and either the keyring or 'pro grip' handle. Does anybody have any of the handles? It looks like a machine screw is used to hold the blades in place, do you need to have a small screwdriver?

This URL showcases the set at http://www.idealcreations.net/ls06.htm. They are all double ended, so it looks like you get (in addition to the one or two handles) and 5 pieces of metal, one of them being the ace tool which is 4 tools in one, and one being the double ended tension wrench. If the quality was right, the handle was comfortable AND held the pick blades well, this MIGHT make a good wallet set. It looks like a plastic card 'bag' is used to hold them. Kinda in the novelty realm. A beginner should start with a more solid set of picks.

"Lock Pick Set"
"The lock pick set is compact is size and fits in to your wallet like a credit card. (wallet not included). The picks included are large and small tension wrench, feeler pick, Double bump rake pick, mini single bump rake pick, small tubular pick, large tubular pick, ward pick type 1, ward pick type 2, car pick, ellipitical ball pick and jiggler pick."

But to direct business, Lockpicker 69- when was your order placed? What was their reply and when did they reply? It would be good to hear what the original complaint was and how they responded. Maybe the shipment got delayed or was sent a different way than expected, like USPS snailmail vs FEDEX overnight? The site says they only charge $6 S&H in the states, so it's not likely to have been sent by the more expensive overnight services. The phone number is 214-638-6888 8:30 - 2:30 Central Time if that helps (had to use 'view source' to find it).

[Olson Burry]

Sorry to hear about the trouble. I guess for 10 denominations of your currency it was worth a poke.

Looking at the website though, urrgh. Glaring grammatical and spelling errors and just doesnt look too professional. Could just be some guy running a business from home or a small shop.

Anyway.. more (freely avaliable) info for you:

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 whois idealcreations.net

Updated Date: 07-jul-2008
Creation Date: 01-jul-2002

Administrative Contact:
      LEE, ALDRIC               lee@precisionshots.com
      4545 Kentucky Drive
      DALLAS, TX 75024
      US
      469-855-8886 fax: 214 638 8887

[Olson Burry]

oh - the registrant of the domain is the same by the way I should have pointed that out, which is why it's interesting that the address and phone numbers on the site are close, but different.

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Registrant:
LEE, ALDRIC
   4545 Kentucky Drive
   DALLAS, TX 75024
   US

   Domain Name: IDEALCREATIONS.NET


just type

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whois idealcreations.net

Into a console/terminal and see.