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Up or down???

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Up or down???

Postby Eyes_Only » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:13 am

I'm on the DealExtreme website looking at these three Mul-T-Lock pick tools but they have three different types. There's Left Up, Left Down and Right Up. Simply put, what does that all mean and which one is suited for the US/North American region?
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Re: Up or down???

Postby sfi72 » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:36 am

It depends on the lock, the up down etc things refer to the positions of the pins in the cylinder.
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Re: Up or down???

Postby Eyes_Only » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:32 am

Ok let me make sure I got this right. So if like the pins move UP into the keyway at a rest/locked position with the keyway opening shifted to your right it's considered RIGHT UP?

So would that mean the North American/US pickers would use a LEFT DOWN configuration of the tool?
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Re: Up or down???

Postby sfi72 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:04 am

No, the physical position of the pins in the lock, under normal orientation the key way is a rectangle, and the corner the pins are in, relates to the version of the tool you need for the lock.
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Re: Up or down???

Postby sfi72 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:17 am

Sorry for the double post, I made a picture to help explain the pin positions.

http://sfi72.com/multlockkeyway.JPG

Right Down
Left Down
Left Up
Right Up


Original photo courtesy of Matt Blaze.
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Re: Up or down???

Postby Eyes_Only » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:20 am

OOoOOooooOOoo, so we're a Right Up!?!?
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Re: Up or down???

Postby sfi72 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:30 am

Eyes_Only wrote:OOoOOooooOOoo, so we're a Right Up!?!?

It depends on the cylinder, I don't know which types are more common in different areas.
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Re: Up or down???

Postby Eyes_Only » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:31 pm

I'll take a chance on it. Thanks.
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