Cross-cruciform- picks

[loki-aka]

Recently had a chance to try out the Klom cruciform (cross) picks.
The came as a three piece set--one of each core diameter.

Pros: Easy to use. Very efficient- they make quick work of most cruciform
locks-weather the lock has three or four set of pinstacks.
Fairly comfortable to hold tools. Built in tension tool via the picks sliding/
rotating shaft.

Cons: They do not feel as strong and robust as I would like, but
it may just be the nature of these type of tools-since
the four picking tines need to flex a fair amount during insertion/
removal.

Overall a nice set. Great value for a good set of tools- about $ 14
FOB, Hong Kong/ PRC. (the price compares quite favorably to
the single HPC tool, selling for many times the price at other suppliers).

[freakparade3]

There is a much simpler way to defeat these locks. Available at any sporting goods store or Wal-Mart for less than $5. Buy a .22 caliber bore cleaning brush.

[loki-aka]

oops ! sorrry for the multiple threads.

[LocksmithArmy]

There is a much simpler way to defeat these locks. Available at any sporting goods store or Wal-Mart for less than $5. Buy a .22 caliber bore cleaning brush.

lol
really... i gotta try this... we got tons of gun cleaning kits in the back... and one of these style locks is on our safe... lol I never woulda thought of that... but I see why it would work

[Eyes_Only]

What would you use for tension as you (I assume) rake with the cleaning brush? And is this basically the same concept as the fiber pick idea?

[freakparade3]

What would you use for tension as you (I assume) rake with the cleaning brush? And is this basically the same concept as the fiber pick idea?

With the brush in the lock you will still have room for a tensor.

[Eyes_Only]

Do these brushes happen to be metal or some kind of fiber brush?

[thelockpickkid]

The ones I have are wire, they may make them of different materials but the wire ones are the only ones I have and have ever seen aside from the cotton swap attachements.

[rx6006]

Bore brushes tend to be brass, so as not to foul the steel barrel of the firearm.

[Eyes_Only]

I'm gonna try out the brass ones if they have that at wal-mart or big-5 in my area. Brass would probably treat the "delicate" bottom pin with more gentleness and care.

[raimundo]

You can also make one, from sweeper bristle,
take two pieces of this metal stock about 6 or 7 inches long, and lay them on each other then bend the two together in half at the middle, keep a small piece of tube like a plug follower in the angle of the bend to prevent it from becoming too sharp a bend which will break the stock.
then fix the four ends solidly together with vise grips and tight binding wire, leave the length of the pick shafts from the ends of the wire to the plier tied together tightly and put a second vise grip on the stack closer to the bend with the follower in it, leave about 3/4 inch between the two pliers and bend this part ninety degrees. similar to a double sided bogota but two of them together, you need the space between the two pliers to accomodate the ninety degree twist of a thick stack of four pieces of metal being twisted together,
complete these similiar to a double sided bogota, however the keeper that holds the pieces in tension is different from the double bogota, the keeper is a piece with a hole in the middle that is cross shaped, and the two pieces are held in position by this keeper.
the two piecs can be rotated back to a flat piece when not in use, the flat piece would be like two doublesided bogota types nested inside each other.

This is not a good project for anyone who is just starting making picks because it requires more fitting and force plus control of the metal while twisting.

the resulting pick is not only a cruciform pick but is also a pair of double sided picks.

you should put diamond tips on pick shafts or you could put a few more peaks on it but thats probably unnessary

[Eyes_Only]

DealExtreme seems to have a fetish for cross-lock picks. And most of them are going for a rather cheap price, like about $10 for each tool.