Miracle Lock Breakdown

[n2oah]

I recently bought a Miracle Lock off of ebay for about $45. It has a very interesting mechanism which I would like to show all of you. The Miracle Lock is much like a Chubb Ava.
The lock unlocked:


Locked:


The Keyway:


The cylinder locked:


Locked again, except without black springy thing:


The lock opened:


Side view of lock partially unlocked(you can see the wafers aligned):




The wafers with key:


A #3 Wafer:


The wafers again:

[What]

Locked again, except without black springy thing:

i love the technical language, 'black springy thing'.

[undeadspacehippie]

Locked again, except without black springy thing:

i love the technical language, 'black springy thing'.

What exactly is that doodad then?

[What]

a return spring or perhaps you could get away with check spring.

[Lateiner]

Hello!
How safe is that lock type? I would really like to know how to manipulate it and where I get this type of lock in Germany....

Yours sincerely,
Lateiner

[Rickthepick]

im sure someone came up with this 'idea' a few weeks ago in another thread... lol
seems someone has always done it before you

[squelchtone]

Hello!
How safe is that lock type? I would really like to know how to manipulate it and where I get this type of lock in Germany....

Yours sincerely,
Lateiner

That lock is from 1965. It is no longer manufactured.

You can get a Chubb Model 1K42 padlock with a Chubb AVA key, or you can get an Ingersoll Security Model CS700 padlock that will look like the padlock in these photos, but will not have that kind of mechanism inside. It will have a 6 or 10 lever Ingersoll mechanism instead.

Good Luck,
Squelchtone

[Lateiner]

Hello!
Thank you for your nice answer. I found this very nice lock on the Website http://www.safelocks.co.uk/acatalog/Chubb_padlocks.html:


As I've seen it, it is more solid than a ABUS Granit Plus, I think. Very safe shackle which can't be seen when it's locked, an a very safe locking mechanism.
BUT: Is there any way to manipulate the lock? If you want to open a ABUS Granit with brute force, you have soon to give up. But you can manipulate the Plus-Cylinder of a Granit or ABUS 89/50 in a few minutes, if you've practised.
Chubb builds very safe locks, so I would think the AVA-Mechanism is "unmanipulatible". I want to know now, what the others think about the security of the AVA-Lock mechanism.

Yours sincerely,
Lateiner

[loki-aka]

I notice the key is stamped "US PROPERTY".

Any background on where it was used ? How you acquired it ? Curious find.

[loki-aka]

I realize you said purchased off ebay, but did seller have any interesting details ?

[squelchtone]

I realize you said purchased off ebay, but did seller have any interesting details ?

old US Miltiary/US Government surplus from 1960's. Available from time to time on ebay.



Squelchtone

[squelchtone]

BUT: Is there any way to manipulate the lock?

Yes.

John Falle (Falle Safe Securities UK) makes an AVA Pick and Decoder System. It is not available to the public. Locksmith/Government only.


Squelchtone

[Josh K]

BUT: Is there any way to manipulate the lock?

Yes.

John Falle (Falle Safe Securities UK) makes an AVA Pick and Decoder System. It is not available to the public. Locksmith/Government only.


Squelchtone

And their probably as expensive as all hell to boot.

Nice lock breakdown.

[raimundo]

I remember these locks on the gun racks from when I was in the army, I got out in 1970

there must be a lot of them somewhere, maybe they include them every time they ship a box of twenty m16s sorta like the shelby can opener in the boxes of C rations.

[exspook]

interesting, the sliders look like the older AVA sliders with the numbers stamped on them

sliders = wafers

[edit-unlisted]

good find though