Bird pin and tumbler

[Ultimatederrenfan]

I came across what i call a "front-door type lock"
This is a dirty-gold coloured 5 pin and tumbler that would be set into a door, being the curious person i am, i took it out and picked it, i wittled my time down to 10-20 secs, the only proper indentification i have is that it's manufactured name is "bird", i have not come accross these before and just wondered if any had, and how easy it was?
Thanks for the help

[Jlo]

Greetings!

Yes the Bird Lock cylinder is a cheap 5 cylinder lock so are reletivly easy to pick (no mushroom or spool pins)

But nice to practice on:)

Cheers

Jlo

[Ultimatederrenfan]

I figured it wasn't rexactly mind boggling as i put my tension wrench at the bottom, inserted the pick and it turned, if this is easy for me what should i move onto next to pick?

[WhiteHat]

hey, just noticed that you wrote "pin and tumbler" - usually that means you've recently read howstuffworks.com?

it's called a Pin tumbler. there are no parts in the lock that are specifically called "tumblers".

Howstuffworks.com is a great site for visuals but has quite a significant bit of mis-information on it.

Cheers,
WH.

[randmguy]

This must be my age showing again but I thught there were five things in the average lock called tumblers.

Tumbler : : a movable obstruction in a lock (as a lever, latch, wheel, slide, or PIN) that must be adjusted to a particular position (as by a key) before the bolt can be thrown.

So yes, he made a small error. He added an unnecessary conjunction but I would still argue that there are specific things in a lock called tumblers. Wow, its amazing how pedantic I can be when I'm taking pain killers .

[WhiteHat]

ok - point taken - the pins are tumblers - but it's weird to say pin and tumbler
because they are the same thing. (as far as my non-locksmith mind knows)

also sounds strange to say "I picked a wafer and tumbler lock today"...

not trying to pick on a newbie - just trying to help someone who has
obviously displayed a willingness to learn in other posts..

[Mark The Lock]

Bird cylinders are very easy to pick. They are also very cheap to buy. Try ERA cylinders next, they are still easy to pick. If you want something more challenging try Yale.

[Ultimatederrenfan]

Sorry about my error, dually noted, the pin tumbler was a nice lock for me to start off with, thanks for the help, but could you tell me why yale's are so hard to pick (for me anyway). Hope im not repeating anything but i have read everything toread on here in regards to FAQ'S etc.
Thanks for the halp all
Dan

[toomush2drink]

The reason yales are a bit harder is that they contain a couple of spool pins, normally 2nd and 5th or 1st and 5th. Dont even think about the latest yale the x5 as they have a lot of nasty stuff in them. There is a thread about them on here somewhere.