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Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

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Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby chochol » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:35 pm

Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Can anyone propose some good lock for my door. please. Some which can not be open by easy bumpping technique.


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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby pin_pusher » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:34 am

the type of criminal who'd be attempting to bump or pick or impression the MT5 would deserve some attention indeed. my advice: as long as one has something better than a 3/low security graded lock, and a combination of deadbolt or some other security system, that person should be pretty good. the thing most worried about would be destructive entry, or an easy bi-pass. but, if it's within budget, and it's a primary concern to be bumped or picked, then go ahead and get something like the MT5. i'm not a professional locksmith, so my advice comes with its handicaps. however, for business security, especially if you're not there all the time, a higher security lock is in need. in my opinion, it's a good lock...not fort knox good, but good. a recommendation is to do what's highest within your budget.
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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby lockinabox » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:44 am

It's a pretty good lock, but in that price range I would go with Abloy: https://securitysnobs.com/Deadbolts
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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby globallockytoo » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:06 am

lockinabox wrote:It's a pretty good lock, but in that price range I would go with Abloy: https://securitysnobs.com/Deadbolts


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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby lunchb0x » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:43 am

As already stated for the price you're better off going for Abloy, also MT5 has been made a bit simpler for the Australian market such as no master pins from memory, not that this would affect you if you are after it for use at home.

If you are after something a bit cheaper again there is also Bi-lock, because of how it works it can not be bumped and picking it is very hard. There are other options out there but for my self I would be picking one of these two options for my house.
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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby Solomon » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:15 pm

People are really worried about bumping huh? I've played with bump keys a fair bit and only ever managed to bump open basic cylinders with no security pins... I know for a fact it can be done but from personal experience I'd say it actually takes a great deal of practice to have any real success with it. Personally I'd be more worried about destructive entry and/or bypass, like pin_pusher said.

You need to be looking at your security as a whole; fancy locks alone aren't going to change much. I'll get to locks in a second, but first of all I have to say that mental deterrents are the best form of defense against a burglar... things that make them think it's not worth it so they look right over your house and move to the next. Remember they don't care about your stuff - they care about stuff, period. They never touch locks unless they think they're easy to break or force open... and trust me, they'd much sooner break a window or kick the back door in than even consider fiddling with your locks. It's good to have a strong deadbolt of course, but the cylinder itself doesn't actually matter.

That is unless your doors are fitted with euro profiles, in which case you'll want a reinforced anti-snap cylinder. Only for the back door though, as long as the one in the front is flush fitting with the handle they won't look twice at it. Of course the one at the back should also be flush fitting to make things more difficult, but on top of a strong cylinder you'll want additional door closers/bolts just incase the cylinder is breached. If they actually get this far they'll try and force the door open and if they're big enough they might just succeed... so you need to focus on not letting them get to this point in the first place.

Thankfully it doesn't take much to spook someone into moving along, your house is just one of many and the slightest chance of being seen/heard is all it takes. Good lighting and getting rid of hedges and fences which provide cover is your biggest weapon, believe it or not. The back/side entrance is the most widely chosen and if these entrances are out in the open they're gonna look for somewhere there is more ample cover. If this isn't an option, block off your back garden with a gate, lock it from the inside with strong bolts and put something on top of it so it can't be climbed over. Stick a decent padlock on the inside aswell so that even if they do manage to get in they're forced to leave through the front door or climb back over with whatever it is they take.

Fancy locks aren't a match for good overall security. ;)
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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby pin_pusher » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:13 am

Solomon wrote:Fancy locks aren't a match for good overall security.


right on right on...a good combination of different tactics is the overall apex
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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby Confederate » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:03 am

lockinabox wrote:It's a pretty good lock, but in that price range I would go with Abloy: https://securitysnobs.com/Deadbolts


New technologies often cost more than older because, let's face it, you have pay those initial costs down.

Anyways, it's a heck of a system. For example, San Jose State University needed a high-security, master key system with a few million odd change keys. The MT5 system did this with ease and with plenty to spare.
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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby datagram » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:27 pm

I would rather pay a small amount more and get the MT5+. The MT5 doesn't offer much more when compared to the older Interactive model. More info on both is available at the Mul-T-Lock article at http://www.lockpickingforensics.com/articles.php

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Re: Any information about this Mul-T-Lock MT5? Good or BAD?

Postby Confederate » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:21 am

datagram wrote:I would rather pay a small amount more and get the MT5+. The MT5 doesn't offer much more when compared to the older Interactive model. More info on both is available at the Mul-T-Lock article at http://www.lockpickingforensics.com/articles.php

dg


The extended utility patent is nice. The cost of the key cutting machine is not.
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