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Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.
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by Aprentice » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:57 am
I'm new to locksmithing; actually I haven't even began to work in the trade yet as I'm looking for an apprenticeship right now. However, I sent away for some starter DVDs to begin learning about it as well as I purchased a lock pick set and wanted some feedback regarding whether this set is a good one or not. Kind of late I guess as I already bought it - not yet recieved. Nevertheless, I thought I would ask some pros for their (your) opinion anyway. Even if you haven't any personal experience in using this set perhaps you could follow the link, read about it and tell me what your opinion is. Thanks.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200241974_200241974?cm_sp=Customer%20driven-_-Recently%20Viewed-_-Category%20Page
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by gostone » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:04 am
Hello Shane,
The navigator is a pretty complete set, more than you need. Better to start with a few tools, try to learn single pin picking with the half diamond, and the hooks mostly. As to the Navigator set, I have seen it, and looked it over, I also know someone who has a set UWSDWF. He was not too impressed with them, and quite frankly neither was I. If you want some decent picks, I would suggest you get some Peterson picks. The "Ken's Picks" set is a very nice set, I just got a set myself recently, and they are my favorites.
For just starting out you should be fine with that set though, just get yourself a few locks to work on.
Shane
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by Eyes_Only » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:09 am
The only "good" thing I hear about that pick set is that it has a couple picks designed for use on Mul-T-Lock cylinders. I don't know how effective they are but supposedly the round handles that Souber makes then with performs better.
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by bonez » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:12 am
this pick set will do you ok,
if you can pick!!
you need to practice and practice before you get any good
there are poeple on here that only use home made picks!
and can pick a wide varriety of locks but they have put the
time in to learn the picks i most have succsess with are
bogotas wich were made by a member on this site.
db's guide is the best place to start.
the dino set is fine but will be no good unless you read the info
on how to use them first 
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by greateast » Tue May 29, 2007 3:52 am
safe to say any good locksmith can make anything work..key is practice..eitherway that kit is not to shabby
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by Eyes_Only » Tue May 29, 2007 5:51 am
I was considering getting a set of the Navigator myself just for the MTL picks but the handles are not rounded and the Souber kit has more than just two tools so I reconsidered. The variety of hook pick offered in that set was tempting too but it looked kinda cheap and the handle design just wasn't doing it for me.
I think It'll be good for a starter because if you end up breaking a couple hook picks you got a bunch more in the set you can use instead and not worry about not being able to SPP. But I think later down the line most everyone ends up with Petersons. That and HPC's deforest picks are all I use and I'm very pleased with them.
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by scorpiac » Tue May 29, 2007 5:54 am
gostone wrote:Hello Shane,
The navigator is a pretty complete set, more than you need. Better to start with a few tools, try to learn single pin picking with the half diamond, and the hooks mostly. As to the Navigator set, I have seen it, and looked it over, I also know someone who has a set UWSDWF. He was not too impressed with them, and quite frankly neither was I. If you want some decent picks, I would suggest you get some Peterson picks. The "Ken's Picks" set is a very nice set, I just got a set myself recently, and they are my favorites. For just starting out you should be fine with that set though, just get yourself a few locks to work on.
Shane
I've never seen this set in person, only in pictures. Gostone, perhaps you or UWSDWF can answer a question that's been bugging me. What is the first tool on the left? I've been wondering for awhile?
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by JackNco » Tue May 29, 2007 6:29 am
I have not got this set but i did consider getting one. after some research i herd that they were ok but cheaply made, chrome comes off and for the price u may as well get some Peterson picks.
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by blake1803 » Tue May 29, 2007 6:34 am
JackNco wrote:chrome comes off
Yeah, I remember Bud Wiser posting a review of them that said as much. It might be useful for the OP to search for that thread. That set is always tempting, though, if only for the large assortment of hooks.
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by Eyes_Only » Tue May 29, 2007 7:25 am
scorpiac wrote:gostone wrote:Hello Shane,
The navigator is a pretty complete set, more than you need. Better to start with a few tools, try to learn single pin picking with the half diamond, and the hooks mostly. As to the Navigator set, I have seen it, and looked it over, I also know someone who has a set UWSDWF. He was not too impressed with them, and quite frankly neither was I. If you want some decent picks, I would suggest you get some Peterson picks. The "Ken's Picks" set is a very nice set, I just got a set myself recently, and they are my favorites. For just starting out you should be fine with that set though, just get yourself a few locks to work on.
Shane
I've never seen this set in person, only in pictures. Gostone, perhaps you or UWSDWF can answer a question that's been bugging me. What is the first tool on the left? I've been wondering for awhile?
I think I read somewhere on this site that the weird looking tool on the far left is a wafer lock reading tool. I could be wrong though.
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by scorpiac » Tue May 29, 2007 8:14 am
Eyes_Only wrote: I think I read somewhere on this site that the weird looking tool on the far left is a wafer lock reading tool. I could be wrong though.
Thanks.
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by charlies » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:24 pm
i hope this isnt grave digging...
i think the dino set has rivets under the rubber handle which means bad quality i have seen the non rubber handle set...i think
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by xkillaghostx » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:47 pm
I own the dino navigator set. I was disappointed with the set, 2 of the picks broke, the tension wrenches arent that great and it seems like its cheap quality cuz the chrome comes off and they break easily. You cant carry the case on you cuz its to big. But i was able to pick a couple locks with it tho.
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