How to pick an Abloy 3085?

[TwizZ]

I picked one of these up by the train tracks in my town, they use them to lock the little huts that are beside all the lights on the tracks. I guess someone forgot to put it back on.

I've never seen a lock like this one, so I picked it up. I checked google and looked on a few forums, but all I've been able to find are cutaway pictures, and people talking about how it's "unpickable".

Does anyone know how to open it without the original key?

[Squelchtone]

I picked one of these up by the train tracks in my town, they use them to lock the little huts that are beside all the lights on the tracks. I guess someone forgot to put it back on.

I've never seen a lock like this one, so I picked it up. I checked google and looked on a few forums, but all I've been able to find are cutaway pictures, and people talking about how it's "unpickable".

Does anyone know how to open it without the original key?

It's not pickable. There are other ways of going about it, but lock picks, hair pins, and paperclips wont open that style mechanism.

Nice find though, that's an older model.

Squelchtone

[Solomon]

Thei are pickable, but it's very difficult. One of the main issues is producing a tool for them, because the semi circular profile leaves very little space to maneuver between discs and the ideally sized tool would be too small to hold any real strength. I've heard the position of the driver discs is also an issue with abloy, as they tend not to be front/back like the abus granit or solex types.

Generally speaking these are tackled by impressioning, or decoding the cuts and using that info to "dial" the lock open. Bottom line, you're not gonna open one of these without spending a lot of time and/or money. Just keep it for the colection

[raimundo]

Interesting, I dont own one of those, "environmental" locks.

but I have looked in their keyways and it seems like all railroad locks, the key is large and simple, with only three disc in the lock, it seemed to me that because of the few discs, this would be easy like one of the chinese disc-detainer pieces.

there is no commercial pick for these, but considering that the design dosent require overcomeing heavy springs, the thing could be impressioned on the edge of a bic pen barrel.

in any case, you have few tumblers, a large keyway to put tool shafts through, and a mechanism that dosent fight you with springs.

I still think that opening one of these couldn't be that hard.

but of course the two other posters here have probably got better first hand experience with these types.

[Wizer]

Raimundo must be thinking of Sargent enviromental locks.
OPs lock however is a common older model Abloy padlock. It could have prettymuch any Abloy cylinder/keyway. What shape is your keyway?
I agree that these can be picked, but I would go with the phrase "virtually unpickable" regardless of the cylinder.
Here is a cutaway with a Classic keyway:
http://restraintsblog.blogspot.com/2009 ... dlock.html

You got yourself a nice paperweight, or weight for fishing net, whatever is your thing..

[raimundo]

Yeah, yer probably right, but I thought it was adlake or some such who made them.