Glass store front deadbolt repinning

[Buggs41]

Wondering how to get at the cylinder for re-pinning. The new tenant has a working key, but there are probably too many other working keys out there. This is not the main door they use, so I suggested packing the back of the key way with floss to prevent unauthorized access until I figure out how to re-pin it.
The lock looks like a mortise cylinder installed in the door/jamb cavity. I did not want to pry off the escution yet because I don't have a replacement one on hand. I need to fiqure out how to get at the cylinder without compromising the security this lock is mimimally providing right now.

Thanks!

*this thread can be moved to the correct section* I have access to all topics.

[keysman]

this should get you started
http://www.batesstlock.com/diy/?p=6

[Buggs41]

Keysman,

I was almost at the point of removing the retaining screws last week, but thought better of it. The tenant was ready for them to come out, I wasn't. You never know what can of worms you might open up.
So, this door is a mortise cylinder lock, and thumbturn, each held in place by the retaining screws located behind the face plate of the latch?
Just hoping it is not an sfic lock. I don't have the control key.

Thanks for the info!

[Squelchtone]

check out my handy visual how to guide from back in the day

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=43367

[camelgd]

Squelchtone,
Those are durn good pictures you took of the hookbolt and mortise cylinders. I think you could have a second career there, especially if you wanted to get into safework. Besides McOmie, there's not much out there for high quality safe pictures.
camelgd

[cledry]

Please don't move this thread of very basic knowledge to an advanced section. LOL

[Buggs41]

Squelchtone,

Very nice photo's! I know this will be easier than anticipated. Thanks!

[raimundo]

aluminum door frames like the typical kawneer or adams rite installation, in an extruded aluminum framed glass door will sometimes be problematic.

One of the problems is that when you unscrew the lock, there might be some shims that are used to hold the lock in the exact position that compliments the strike, before you realize how important these are, they can fall down inside the extrusion and complicate the job especially if you have no replacements for them and have to get them back from inside the extrusion. If possible, push wadded up newspaper in there to prevent things from falling down too far.

In buggs original post I got the idea that the lock was not in the doors aluminum frame but in the lintel post. I could be wrong, its seldom done that way

[cledry]

I've never seen one installed in the jamb. Would love to see photos of such an installation. I assume since you said seldom that you have run into this on more than one occasion?

[Buggs41]

The dead bolt is installed in the door. I have never tried re-pinning one of these. I've done a few KIK residential locks and deadbolts, but not a storefront lock. I will probably tackle this one next week. Again, thanks for the information provided.

[cledry]

The dead bolt is installed in the door. I have never tried re-pinning one of these. I've done a few KIK residential locks and deadbolts, but not a storefront lock. I will probably tackle this one next week. Again, thanks for the information provided.

Why don't you just have the folks call a locksmith that can do the job properly. I'm not saying you won't get the job done, but why experiment on someone's lock and their security. I don't think it is really the place to practice ones hobby.

[Evan]

The dead bolt is installed in the door. I have never tried re-pinning one of these. I've done a few KIK residential locks and deadbolts, but not a storefront lock. I will probably tackle this one next week. Again, thanks for the information provided.

@Buggs41:

Interesting that in the absence of some major tenant refit/remodel for the new tenant that the locks for the tenant space were not re-keyed prior to the new tenant's occupancy...

It would have been ideal to re-key the space just after the old tenant vacated and tendered keys to the building/property management to ensure no former employees could access that space after they stopped paying rent on it...

To wait until after the new tenant is in the picture AND not have all exterior doors of the tenant space operate on one key for the tenants seems rather odd...

It is not hugely difficult to obtain a replacement cylinder for the type of door lock you have described and to swap them out should take all of maybe 6 minutes...

~~ Evan

[Buggs41]

Evan,

That actually is what SHOULD be done by the land lord. He is too cheap to pay a locksmith.

BTW. The land lord is my boss, and the tenant is one of my co-workers. I am more or less doing this at the request of the co-worker.