upvc multi lock

by **cred** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:50 pm

hi guys
went to job this morning eventually opened the door( upvc) but noticed when turning the handle the door catch wasn,t going in and out so off came the handles to find the hole that the spindle for the handles was knackard,so i need a new locking system,this 1 is a 4 point locker would i have to replace it with the same or could i put say a 2 or a 3 locker on? and are all the locking systems the same size eg length ect
thanx
ray :wink:

by **oldlock** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:16 pm

Multi points are a nightmare, there are different makes, different backsets, different hole centres, and then different locking bolts / roller cams / mushroom cams / hook bolts etc.

The key is information, you need to take as many measurement as possible, take note of any & all markings on the lock and then find some good suppliers for such locks.

And no they are not all the same length, they usually come longer and you need to cut them down.

I would suggest Duffels and Keyprint for starters.

Paul

by **Guest** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:16 pm

Hi Ray,

Just came on line for a minute and noticed your post. I have been opening and fitting upvc door locks for 23 years. I will hopefully later on give a full break down on these locks and what goes wrong with them, how we open them and how we fit them.

Don

by **Rockford** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:23 pm

I've had this problem on a few occasions - made even more difficult when the metal has sheared off into the mechanism, making opening the door a bugger.

Try and get the same mechanism if possible - it should have identifying marks/numbers on the faceplate or locking mechanism once taken out of the door. Most wholesale catalogues have excellent diagrams of the various mechanisms showing dimensions and locking method.

If you can't replace with the same, you'll have to relocate or install new keeps on the door frame to meet the bolts/mushrooms/rollers (whatever you go with).

You'll also need to ensure you get the correct centres on the locking mechanism, or you'll have to get new handles as well.

To install, you'll probably need to trim the ends to fit the door height.

God I love UPVC.

Rockford.....

by **EvoRed** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:27 pm

I usually just take the old one down the local locksmiths shop and ask them for a best fit. You do have to saw a bit off the end and maybe move a couple of mushroom catches... They're not cheap either.

by **cred** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:25 pm

thanx for the replys guys :wink:

don that would be of great intrest if you could do a post on the locks and fitting them ect, cheers
ray

by **toomush2drink** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:20 pm

Also you can take it out and take photos of it with a digital camera to email to a supplier, i do this before taking them apart as then i know where everything goes back if something flys out.

by **cred** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:12 pm

good idea! toomush

by **acl** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:39 pm

DG Supplyline have a big range altough not cheap.01702 351911

by **cred** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:41 am

by **cass** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 4:19 am

DG supplyline can post out a CD with detailed drawings ,and also ASSA locks,MILA sent me a great little book called THE KEY,inside is ALL the information on profile definitions etc.
I just contacted these companies direct and they were more than helpfull in sending out info either via CD or print.

by **cred** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:13 am

cass i will get in touch with them asap :wink:

by **79commando** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:47 am

A problem I have came across with older Multi Locks sticking is when the screw that secures the cylinder works loose; normaly noticed by the actual cylinder wobbling slightly when inserting the key. The mechanism starts off by being hard to close when the handles are forced upwards and eventualy they stick; either open or closed. What has happened is the screw has undone sufficiently to interfere with the movement of the locking linkages. If seized in the locked position snap the cylinder, reach into the hole and whilst rocking the handles up and down force the screw inwards; it should pop open pretty easily. Open the door, remove the screw and replace it with a new one. Job done.

Drilling locks doesn't make you a Locksmith, just as going to church doesn't make you a Christian.

by **haribo** » Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:50 am

DG Supplyline a good source or though they only stock certain makes eg Winkhaus and Mila etc Another good supplier is Wagners in Gillingham Kent they stock most other makes that D&G don't and visa versa. I Fitted one today bit of a pig but got there in the end

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