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by MrBuz » Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:45 am
Marc Tobias is not going to go under. He is principle attorney in his own firm and does primarily investigative work. I suggest you visit his websight at www.security.org. This guy is purely incredible to have authored LSS.
I am but a hobbist who wants to share some enthusiam.
Lock bypassing satiates my love of overcoming obstacles.......Learn on!
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by Eyes_Only » Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:29 am
If you buy the book from the publisher (Charles Thomas Publishers) does it come with the CD's or do you need to buy them seaperately?
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by Grudge » Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:07 am
Just got mine a couple of weeks ago. The 1700 or so pages are split into 2 physical books (volumes 1 and 2). The book set comes with a single demo CD (3 days of access) and a certificate of ownership.
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by Grudge » Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:21 am
Oops, meant 1400 pages instead of 1700 pages.
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by eric343 » Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:12 am
Grudge wrote:Just got mine a couple of weeks ago. The 1700 or so pages are split into 2 physical books (volumes 1 and 2). The book set comes with a single demo CD (3 days of access) and a certificate of ownership.
Must be something new. My copy was all one volume...
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by lockpickroy » Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:30 am
eric did you get your lss from a different online bookstore if so where? I have the cc thomas catalog and it does state 2 volumes when i but it i wouls rather have 1 volume
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by eric343 » Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:43 am
lockpickroy wrote:eric did you get your lss from a different online bookstore if so where? I have the cc thomas catalog and it does state 2 volumes when i but it i wouls rather have 1 volume
I bought mine from Amazon.com.
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by eric343 » Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:49 am
According to Marc Tobias, the 2-volume set is the same version, next printing.
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by MrBuz » Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:22 am
Well folks, I am probably crazy but I bought the book after having the discs for a few weeks. I travel a great deal and the wife will not permit me to take her notebook.
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by eric343 » Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:50 am
No, you're not crazy. There's a reason I haven't sold my copy of the book despite having the discs...
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by Eyes_Only » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:17 am
How do you prove that you are a locksmith to get the level 2 version of LSS?
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by Kith » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:03 pm
I would also be interested in knowing what exactly is asked for by 'security clearance'.
Is he looking for a military clearance, a civilian clearance, or some kind of proof of being a locksmith?
By all accounts that I am reading, this is the way to go - so I would like to get the most information-packed version I can regardless of price...
(drumroll as I meander back to the point)
...but his website does not seem to describe what is meant by security clearance and I have not found any info here in LP101 regarding it.
Thanks in advance
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by Kith » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:26 pm
Well, I found a tad bit more info here on the site (was buried in the next to the post before last in the faq section here):
Originally posted by Biff: general public, locksmith, government.
But what would it take to get to each level?
as in : anyone can get the general public version.
What is needed for the locksmith version?
What is needed for the government version?
(I apologize for posting after myself so quickly - not having an edit button will be a feature that needs some getting used to)
But thanks up front for any clarification that can be shed upon this subject.
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by Kith » Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:33 pm
Have my apologies as it is late and i'm at that point where im tired but I can't sleep. Somehow on his website I missed it ... most likely a dozen times.
This is a quote from his website on the requirements for each version for anyone who might have any trouble finding it.
Originally posted at http://www.security.org PUBLIC VERSION: The public version contains two volumes, and may be purchased by anyone. LOCKSMITH VERSION: This six volume set will be sold to locksmiths and security professionals only. It will not be available to the general public. GOVERNMENT VERSION: This fourteen volume set will only be sold to government agencies, law enforcement officers, contractors, or training facilities that have contracts with any government agency involving security. A private contractor must provide a letter stating that the material will only be distributed or utilized in the training of government agencies, or contractors working directly for government agencies. LSS+ will not be exported to any country on the DOC restricted list, or to any buyer that is deemed a security risk by the author. Any questions should be directed to the author at mwtobias@security.org. You may also call 1.605.334.1155 in the United States. The author, and not the dealer, shall have the sole discretion in approving all sales. ALARMS VERSION: This four volume set will only be sold to government agencies, or private contractors that perform work for government agencies with regard to the evaluation, assessment, installation or maintenance of alarm systems.
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