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Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.
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by ghostyboy » Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:30 am
Does anyone have any idea if its possible too pick up a Agency pick gun with acessories and what kind of mechanism it had im assuming its based on a electric shaver principle but as ive never had a chance to examine one i don't know.Any answers are welcomed thanks ghostyboy
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by stick » Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:38 am
Wow. Not a single period.
I don't know what the agency uses. If it's different from a standard manual or electric pickgun, you're not going to get one, unless you join the CIA and end up with a posting that justifies your need.
Search and you'll find plenty of info about how pickguns work.
My bad. There's one period. And one apostrophe.
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by Romstar » Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:35 pm
It's almost next to impossible to find one of these things that you can buy anywhere.
Come to think of it, most people have never even seen one, and of those who have, most of them saw it in a book.
Consider them impossible to obtain.
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by Ives » Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:59 pm
But if somebody saw one, and he knows how he works, couldn't we make a replica? Maybe are the originals (almost) impossable to get, but a replica could work just as well.
I'm digging my grave with pick and wrench!:-)
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by Romstar » Sun Feb 13, 2005 6:08 pm
Replicas are indeed possible.
They are a very good design, and quite effecient as well I might add.
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by CynicalGabe » Mon Feb 14, 2005 5:08 am
Romstar wrote:Replicas are indeed possible.
They are a very good design, and quite effecient as well I might add.
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I'm not at all familiar with this design. What differentiates them from the run-of-the-mill pick guns?
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by stick » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:03 am
A search turned this up. Whether or not this is what Romstar is referring to is beyond me. I love how they give an inaccurate description though: "This Standard Lockpick Set comes with: One tension wrench, One rake pick, One Diamond Pick, One Auto Pick, One Lifter pick, One high quality Leather Case and a detailed Instruction Book." Only the last bullet point actually describes the gun.[/url]
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by pickmonger » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:10 am
One of the more unique aspects of the Agency Pick Gun was the fact that it combined the pick and tension tool in one unit
It came with a choice of 4 different tension tools or key blanks, each designed to fit one of four different keyway styles.
After snapping on the correct tension key, the device was fitted into the lock and gentle turning of the gun opened the lock.
Keith Melton, expert in the CiA and spying has one in his museum collection. Photos are in his books, as well as Pickguns by John Minnery.
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by Romstar » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:28 am
Pickmonger gets the prize. Sorry Stick, but you turned up a plain jane pick gun.
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by WhiteHat » Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:33 am
sounds like something that raimundo was looking at developing in his "creative thinkers" thread.
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by mcm151201 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:05 am
Romstar wrote:Pickmonger gets the prize. Sorry Stick, but you turned up a plain jane pick gun.
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Where would one find a photo of this pick gun?
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by pickmonger » Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:25 am
pickmonger wrote:Keith Melton, expert in the CiA and spying has one in his museum collection. Photos are in his books, as well as Pickguns by John Minnery.
Nice photos of the Agency Pickgun are in
Ultimate Spy Book
Keith Melton, & William Colby
Hardcover: 176 pages
Publisher: Dorling Kindersley Publishing; 1st American ed edition (April 1, 1996)
ISBN: 0789404435
and a whole chapter with drawings and operators manual in
Pick Guns
John Minnery
Paperback: 128 pages
Publisher: Paladin Press (May, 1989)
ISBN: 0873645103
Both books are worth owning and available on Amazon.com
Unfortunately I have not found any photos of this device on the internet. The book's images are copyrighted so I can't very well post them.
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by ghostyboy » Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:02 am
I think ive figured how the damm thing works i was talking to a locksmithing mate of mine and he guesses it's based on a electric shaver action cause it has right amount of vibratory power to open a lock rather like a buzzer unit so mabe its not too hard to fabricate one after all making the tension wrench unit is slightly more tricky but will keep you all posted if i succeed in buildin one
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by Romstar » Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:57 pm
Good luck. I've made several of them, and it isn't as easy as it first appears. Also, while you can make a similar unit from an electric shaver, the original units weren't that big. Closer to the size of a pocket pager.
Also, bear in mind that they were battery powered.
So, considering the original size, that's a neat trick for the time when they were first made.
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