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Euro cylinder repinning and breakdown photos

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

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Postby master in training » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:58 am

that really cool, thank you! :D

i found a big paper clip today as well, thi biggest i've ever seen! its massive! :shock:

anyway, my lock should hopefully get here tomorrow, so i'll probably make my new tool then and get it working :D

Thanks again,

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Postby eric343 » Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:37 pm

Awesome post! Thank you very much. I nominate this one for Stickification...
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Postby jax » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:13 am

excellent post..............! just a quickie....if you wanted to repin quickly, put the original key in a vice and saw in half lengthways. insert into cylinder, turn a quarter, then insert your pin retaining tool (be it modded paperclip or whatever) and turn together to upside down position. now withdraw plug and top pins and springs stay in chambers......
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Postby jork45 » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:11 am

Great images and love the paper clip idea Great post. :D
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Postby NKT » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:54 pm

Just to note that putting the springs and top pins back into a high security cylinder can be one of the most frustrating things in the world, ever. Higher security cylinders normally have higher strength springs, and tighter tolerances.

For example, the Zone 6 pin range is quite tricky. Getting the 6th pin in without dislodging the wire retaining the other pins is quite a feat, since the springs are stronger, so it becomes more likely that your wire will distort and the slightest nudge will set them free.

Combine this with the very tight clearance of the cylinder which means a shim won't fit, and you can have a lot of "fun".

If you can, pick the cylinder you want to re-pin. Once done, invert the plug, and fit your pin retaining tool. Now carefully remove the plug, which, hopefully, means that the top pins stay in place. Now remove bottom pins, masters, etc. as needed and re-insert. Far, far faster!

Now if someone could come up with a tool for this that lets you use the key (aside from cutting the key in half lengthways!) *that* would be a big seller.
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Repinning European Locks

Postby bsculley » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:42 am

I have a number of locks similar to the one you have shown, and am in need of repinning them. Do you have a source for metric pins for these locks (available for purchase in the US). Most of my locks are CISA, but look exactly like your LaPerche.

Thanks.
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Postby squelchtone » Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:29 am

I just took apart my first euro profile ABUS cylinder with a Y1 Yale 5 pin core. (4 spool pins and 5 serrated key pins) I have heard about this post, but never had to look for it until now.

This post is great and the pictures are so easy to understand!

Thank You!

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Postby Belfast_ken » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:29 am

Great post and fab idea , Going now to give it a go!!! Thanks for the info
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Postby ross » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:35 pm

how do you put the last 2/3 pins back in? i have a yale lock very similar to your Laperche and i used your paperclip idea and i managed to get the first three pins in with the help my trusty slim pilers but i cant reach any further. i would ratherr only open 1 side of the lock (which i have done) so i cant remove the cam but do i have to to get at the remaning pins??

ps im very new to this(but i have a small set of picks if it helps)
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Postby Shrub » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:41 pm

You need to use a pair of tweezers,

Get your paperclip in place and right next to a hole,

Insert and push down a spring and top pin with your tweezers,

Slide the paper clip tool in another pin space,

Once all pins are trapped insert the plug 180' to the rest position and slide it back in with the paper clip tool slideing in the bottom of the keyway,

Rotate the plug until it clicks in the cam and the pins click in the chambers,
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Postby Axilithor » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:36 pm

This is really nice, but what to do with locks that have fully circlips? I have some locks that have a full ring, so that you can't clip them off.
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Postby globallockytoo » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:19 am

Axilithor wrote:This is really nice, but what to do with locks that have fully circlips? I have some locks that have a full ring, so that you can't clip them off.



That is not very common.

You could drill each tumbler chamber out from the top. When rebuilding...make sure to fill the holes with lead shot or some brass plugs...and file smooth.
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Postby marinus » Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:07 am

This is really nice, but what to do with locks that have fully circlips? I have some locks that have a full ring, so that you can't clip them off.


I also have a lock that has closed clips. Its a 6pin IVANA NECOLOC. I guess the makers dont want you to change the configuration of the lock.
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paper clips

Postby ialma » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:15 pm

I had few problems with standard big size paper clips until I discovered the existence of jumbo paperclips.
Paperclips n° 6 are perfect to build this tool, and one of those measures, once opened about 21cm length.
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bad locks

Postby Shark78 » Sun May 25, 2008 3:45 am

Laperche lock is a bad exemple for french lock because most of them have no security pins, their master keys systems are very easy to decodes (the master key use all the lower pins)

the only goods things is the key way which is sometimes very thin and complicated.
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