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Link - The History and Science of Lock Pick Guns

Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.

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Link - The History and Science of Lock Pick Guns

Postby bubbashitz » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:24 am

I couldn't find this posted but great updated article on pickguns with patent pictures.....Check It Out

http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/138/48/
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With homemade designs

Postby bubbashitz » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:30 am

Also covers Sonicare Toothbrush and Black & Decker Electric Screwdriver designs!!!
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Postby digital_blue » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:11 pm

Good resource. Nice find!

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Postby digital_blue » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:22 pm

BTW, who is Tommy Tyler and is he a member of this forum? I'd like to think that someone with that much knowledge to share is here sharing it. :)

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Postby DeadlyHunter » Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:54 pm

Wow! now a bread knife may just work lol
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Postby digital_blue » Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:11 pm

Did anyone else notice that when he talks about an electric knife he alludes to this type of design being able to pick a medeco? Interesting....

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Postby D_Shane » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:17 am

I conversed with a Tommy Tyler from here a while back about pickgun designs, and from some of the art work shown I would say it appears to be the same. There were several people I spoke with on the subject so I can't be certain, but I believe it was Tommy that wound up making a saw action pick that was successful with biaxial. For some reason I no longer have the emails and messages from them so I can not say for sure.

Someone had also come up with an automatic tubular pick, and was working on one for pin and biaxial. It worked on the cam principle as in for a car. I don't believe Tommy was the designer there, but sort of recall him making a few suggestions on it.

I'm pretty sure this is the same Tommy, and he does contribute quite a bit.
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Postby mattc » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:50 am

I've got an old Sonicare toothbrush that I no longer use, and with cautious use of a hacksaw made some subtle modifications. It seems to work okay, and the tips I've made from (you guessed it) street sweeper bristles don't appear to affect things too much. Using my practice lockboard it worked on almost everything. The Yale X5 was asking a bit much, but I made the tip too short :oops:
I'll post some pics when I've got batteries for my camera
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Postby mattc » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:58 am

As promised my Sonicare. I had trouble finding a way of holding the tips on, but two layers of heat shrink seem to do a good job for now and don't appear to affect the range of movement or frequency of the vibration badly. I intend to see if the longer tips are workable over the next few days.
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Postby lockedin » Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:47 am

I was surprised to learn they've been around since th 1930's, I thought they were invented during the cold war. What I found interesting is the fact that the basic working of pin and tumblers (excluding sidebars and security pins) have changed so little in 70 years that a locksmith from back in the day would have little problems opening many doors today.
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Postby king_mouse » Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:07 am

wow. just wow.
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Postby stickypicky » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:40 pm

lasy year my mom had the locks changed on our house,the next day i found the locksmith had forgotten his pick gun and pickset.He never came back,so i kept them.They are nice and i have had a year to practise with.
they work so good the gun is cool i can open all the locks on my house now,i tried it on a tricircle padlock,but that is to hard for me i will practise more tho.The hand pick i used i cut my hand at 1st then dah there is some with handles on them.My friends think i am so cool to have the real Mc coy ones.
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Postby sillyboy » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:52 pm

Hiya Sticky.... well may i quote Spidermans uncle here for a moment .... "with great power comes great responcibilty"

I too have a real pick gun but i will only use it in real emergencies, this one time a lady locked herself out of her house, she called a locksmith but he wanted some serious cash... like 15pounds to open.... i did it for her before he got there in like 5mins!!!! All i charged was a thank you
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Postby stickypicky » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:03 pm

Hiya sillyboy,hey that was good of you,i bet she was pleased the locksmiths here are very dear too. Was he mad to see her door open .Yes i understand the responsability to have these picks because you can get into anything.Thanks for the tip on the bike lock i did it you would be pleased as punch with me,and as tyou want i will keep that trick to myself,thanks for sharing .I want to work on car locks,the guy next door has let me look at his lexus,it doesn't look all that complicated i will ask him if i can take one of the door locks apart.He knows i can pick some locks. They look like 4 keys in one i think haha i wish the locksmith had forgot his key machine too.
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Postby sillyboy » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:15 pm

Hi Sticky.... I would never try to take work away from a locksmith, its just that this was an emergency..... the lady had left her kettle boiling and the locksmith told her about an hours wait.
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