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Mysterious vending machine lock

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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Oct 2008 0:19

Please note the 8th pin in the original 1959 patent drawing:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=l_9fAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=2993361&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1


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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby Spiffytexan » 26 Oct 2008 1:36

Thanks, guys! It is the Van-Lock, I mistyped "8 pins" instead of 7 apparently. If I can obtain one of those nifty y-wrnches in that video, I should be fine... Will my local locksmith have one? Who else might? We have crummy locksmiths around here...
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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby JK_the_CJer » 26 Oct 2008 10:33

Spiffytexan wrote:What? Dang thing changes "e--z--picking.com" to lockpicking101.com?!?! What?


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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Oct 2008 10:44

Spiffytexan wrote:Thanks, guys! It is the Van-Lock, I mistyped "8 pins" instead of 7 apparently. If I can obtain one of those nifty y-wrnches in that video, I should be fine... Will my local locksmith have one? Who else might? We have crummy locksmiths around here...


Perhaps you missed the part in the video when the guy said he made that wrench himself. Go to it MacGuyver, we expect pictures of the your home made wrench by tomorrow morning.

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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby Spiffytexan » 26 Oct 2008 10:52

Heh, there were two wrenches, he made one, I could make do with the purchased one. The home-made one will not work on a vending machine, as there is a guard around the outside of the lock housing. I've made a-plenty tools in my day, but I'm here at college now, and can't exactly weld things in my dorm!
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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Oct 2008 11:14

Spiffytexan wrote: but I'm here at college now, and can't exactly weld things in my dorm!


obviously not an engineering major! :twisted:


The one used in the video is the HPC STW-3
http://www.hpcworld.com/Picks/p_stw.htm

Here's an online place to buy one:
http://www.basshome.com/hpc_stw-3_197939_prd1.htm

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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby jimb » 26 Oct 2008 12:44

squelchtone wrote:Here is a video of a VANLOCK being picked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opsgDNYJmBc


In the video it appears that after the lock is picked that he turns it past the next set of holes. If I'm correct then what keeps the pins from falling into these holes?
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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Oct 2008 13:21

jimb wrote:
squelchtone wrote:Here is a video of a VANLOCK being picked:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opsgDNYJmBc


In the video it appears that after the lock is picked that he turns it past the next set of holes. If I'm correct then what keeps the pins from falling into these holes?


What you mean is what keeps the spring loaded bottom pins from shooting up and pushing the top pins back flush with the surface, thus locking the lock every Nth degrees. I was wondering the same thing, and have no good answer at this point.

vrocco knows these locks, maybe he has an explanation of how this works.

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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby Raymond » 27 Oct 2008 18:28

Try using a gum type pencil eraser. (square, rectangular, or cut it round) Stick sewing pins through it in line with the lock pins.
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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby nothumbs » 27 Oct 2008 22:41

Two minutes with a large paperclip and a needle-nose pliers should get you a tool that would work. Not much tension needed.
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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby zeke79 » 29 Oct 2008 16:50

Is this the "hall directors" machine or does it belong to a vending company who comes to refill it at certain times?
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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby RangerF150 » 29 Oct 2008 17:51

zeke79 wrote:Is this the "hall directors" machine or does it belong to a vending company who comes to refill it at certain times?

Personally speaking I think his "story" is complete rubbish, and I find it fascinating that he got all the help he got, thus far, without hesitation.
As stories go, I have never heard such a complete load of trash, I have a dog at home that would come up with a better cover story !!

Interesting the way this obvious rubbish story is let go and other threads are locked in an instant ?
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Re: Mysterious vending machine lock

Postby zeke79 » 30 Oct 2008 8:32

Agreed. At this time, with the info I have seen this thread is being closed.
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