how to pick a medeco cylinder

[crackmedeco]

Hi everyone, I'm new to this and stumbled into a situation that I have to pick a Medeco lock. I know the book "Open In Thirty Seconds" will teach me how to crack a Medeco. But the situation I have here doesn't seem to give me a time to wait for the book to arrive, read the book and practice and then pick it. And I probably don't want to know all the details of Medeco because I only want to pick one very specific lock from them: the medeco cylinder, without the sidebar. So I was just wondering if anyone could kindly just give me some hit in a nutshell how to twist the tumblers for them to align up, or in short, how to crack a Medeco, I would much appreciated.

[globallockytoo]

if there is no sidebar...there is no need to twist the tumblers.

kind of an odd question.

are you a locksmith?

are you picking a lock in use?

if so why dont you call a trained locksmith to do the job?

[MacGyver101]

. . . I only want to pick one very specific lock from them: the medeco cylinder, without the sidebar.

Okay, two questions. First, when you say "one very specific lock", do you mean one specific model of lock, or a lock on a specific door? Second, is the Medeco cylinder "without the sidebar" that you're talking about: (a) a Medeco Keymark; (b) a Medeco M3 BiLevel; or, (c) some other Medeco that's simply missing its sidebar?

[Squelchtone]

can you take a picture of the lock, it will help us a lot to be able to identify it properly.

and there is no substitute for practice, we cant tell you to take step a, b and c, and in 10 minutes the lock is open. unless of course those steps are a. pick up your phone, b. call a locksmith, c. go to the ATM while you wait for him.



Squelchtone

[crackmedeco]

Thanks guys for the replies. Here is the picture of the type of lock I try to tackle:
http://popalockpalmbeach.com/store/cata ... imMort.jpg.

Hope this help you to point me to the right direction.

I'm not sure if there's a side-bar or slider judging from the picture.( yeah, you can tell i'm a rookie.)

Another question, can this type of lock be picked with a pick gun? Has anyone tried it?

Thanks a lot everyone!

[What]

Thanks guys for the replies.
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Thanks a lot everyone!

How about you answer the other questions before expecting an answer?

[apb]

After seeing the pic I suggest calling a locksmith. Take a look at the pic on squelchtones signature. Looks like you're lock and it's not for beginners.

[apb]

Here you go. Take a look a this link. Looks like the pic you showed there and as you can see there are all sort of nasty things going on in there. Pick up the phone. Make the call.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/179233/Makeup ... axial-Lock

[chev49]

Thanks for the scribd.com link. Thats a excellent article. Rick

[crackmedeco]

Thanks apb! that's a great tutorial! I know there's a thing called Locksmith and I know it's difficult to pick, otherwise I won't be here ask for expertise.

Still, anyone tried pick gun for this type of lock?

[RangerF150]

I'm new to this and stumbled into a situation that I have to pick a Medeco lock.

How do you "stumble" into a "situation" that you "have to" pick a Medeco lock ??
I have to know, I really do

[MacGyver101]

Still, anyone tried pick gun for this type of lock?

Unfortunately, a pick gun isn't going to work for you. The lock in the photo that you linked to (assuming that it's exactly the same lock as the one you're talking about) is a Medeco Biaxial: it does not have the new M3 slider, but does have a sidebar. I believe the only current-production Medeco cylinder that looks similar to the one in your photo that does not have a sidebar is the M3 BiLevel; mitchcapper has a really good write-up that explains the differences with the BiLevel. (He also has an excellent write-up on a Biaxial cut-away he made that has some of the clearest photos I've seen on how the sidebar mechanism works.)

A standard pick gun simply bounces the pins up, and does nothing to cause the pins to rotate -- which means that it won't be helpful in overcoming the sidebar. (Now, anything's possible: the pins may randomly rotate into the correct position while you're playing with the pickgun, and the lock may open... but, if so, that would be entirely by chance, and not by design of how the pick gun is working.)

[Mutzy]

I'm still waiting for a reason why this particular cylinder needs to be picked.

Quite simply, this is a hobbyist forum. If you are not in a position to learn the ways of manipulation and the intricate workings of these locks, then we cannot help you.

And since many members have asked you questions about the circumstances surrounding this lock and you seem to be ignoring them, your chances of getting the information you require are getting slimmer with each post.

Call a locksmith.

[crackmedeco]

Hey "RangerF150", "Mutzy", and "What",

Not that I was "trying to ignore" the questions, I just thought that the situation was not that relavent, since as one of you put it's a " hobbyist forum". I thought we are here for the hobby of lockpicking, share experiences and tackle problems, not snooping or gossiping. Hence didn't answer some of your questions. Like I said, I'm new and didn't know the "house rules", no intention to offend any of you.

But since you guys are obviously very interested in the "situation",which is a long story, so I will try to describe it in a nutshell: I work for a financial firm. I used to have access to clients' investment money. Lots and lots of money. Some of them are even cash! Not too long ago, a good friend of mine need to borrow some money for emergency for a short period of time. I took the bullet and the risk to help him out using the companying money becuase I knew he'll return the money, which he did,and no one is going to notice or affected. The problem now is, I recently got assigned to work for another department, which means I had to render some of the keys. Now that I need to put the money back without anyone noticed, but I don't have the key any more. And as you all know, Medeco's key is not duplicable,-- or at least I can't find any locksmith to do that for me without paperwork before I turned in the key. Since I don't work for that department any more, it would be very suspicious if I hire a Locksmith to open that door for me, and plus, I can't proove to the Locksmith that I'm the authorized person to that office without revealing my ID. And here is the deal breaker, believe it or not, the LocksmithS(noticed it's plural!!) I called ALL told me that Medeco is not pickable!!!!! They all said they had to drill it! And get this: when I started to ask them "haven't you seen the viedo on youtube that many medeco got picked?" They think I'm on crack!!

Hence, here is you guys comes to play. I would definitely be in big big trouble if my upper management found out I used the company money for personal use regardless I'm returning it. Now you got the picture. Still wanna help?

[crackmedeco]

Oh, not to forget: thanks MacGyver101!