VistaView Lock

[sugurfoot]

I need to remove a VISTAVIEW lock for a metal and glass door on Mon. Does it unscrew from the inside? Any special tool? It takes a Schlage key, the front and back look the same but I know it must come apart from the inside, I tried a wrench on it today but tke metal face was all that turned, the ring behind it is loose and turns but my wrench was chewing the edge up and I stopped. This is my first attempt at such a lock and thought I could find something on the internet, All I got was VistaWall metal and glass buildings but nothing about locks. Might one of you experts be of help? you can get me at sugurfoot@aol.com anytime.

[squelchtone]

I need to remove a VISTAVIEW lock for a metal and glass door on Mon. Does it unscrew from the inside? Any special tool? It takes a Schlage key, the front and back look the same but I know it must come apart from the inside, I tried a wrench on it today but tke metal face was all that turned, the ring behind it is loose and turns but my wrench was chewing the edge up and I stopped. This is my first attempt at such a lock and thought I could find something on the internet, All I got was VistaWall metal and glass buildings but nothing about locks. Might one of you experts be of help? you can get me at sugurfoot@aol.com anytime.

Hi,

It sounds like a mortise cylinder which is screwed into the door frame. A set screw holds it in place from the EDGE of the door. If you're looking at the edge of the door while it is open, and 2 little set screws are not visible at the same height as the center of the cylinder, then you need to take a cover plate off which is 2 or 3 Phillips screws. Once the metal plate is removed from the edge of the door, you will see two slotted screws which you have to back out a ~1/4 inch, then try to unscrew the lock cylinders out of the door. A good trick is to insert a schlage key that ISNT for that lock and use the key to unscrew the cylinders. If you only have the key that is meant for that lock, insert it 3/4 of the way and then use it to unscrew the cylinder. If the cylinders are still stuck, then try the pliers.

Here's some pics of what I'm talking about, hopefully this will solve your problem. Next time, please try to post a photo of the lock, it helps A LOT!










let us know how it went,
Squelchtone

Why are you removing the locks from the door anyway, does the door no longer need to be locked up at night?

[squelchtone]

For anyone wondering, hey, what kind of door does that big lock mechanism install into?

Here's the only pic I could find on the whole internets:



That lock already has the nice cover removed, and you can see the recess where the cover would normally sit flush with the surface of the door's side.


Squelchtone

[MacGnG1]

i have been wondering how those work... now i know

[sugurfoot]

You are so right on with the information. I really do appreciate your time and information. I guess pix would be good but I was at home and this struck me as a fast place to get answers I couldnt find on goggle. Next time I will remember to ask here first. Again thank you very much.

[lunchb0x]

For anyone wondering, hey, what kind of door does that big lock mechanism install into?

These type of locks are very common on shop front doors back home because of fire regulations, being on aluminium doors the larger bolt is better for if someone tries to jimmy the doors apart.

[raimundo]

The boltwork mechanism is and adams rite in the photos, these have very strong laminated bolts, you could destroy the entire aluminum glass door frame without ever damaging that bolt. Of course peterson sells a piece of hardened wire that bypasses the cylinder and reaches into the boltworks and unlocks it.

What I find most tricky about these locks is the installation which is done to fix it solidly to a hollow core extruded aluminum beam. The locks require shims and such to make them fit correctly in the application. It gets tricky when one of these shims slips away and falls down inside the hollow extrusion.

The cylinder as mentioned above has a set screw into the side of it. and access to this setscrew is covered by the coverplate that goes over the boltwork edge.

[straightpick]

I would just like to add another tip on removing/installing the cylinders. If the cylinder is hard to remove or install, just loosen the two screws that hold the lock in. Not a lot, just enough to get some play in the lock. This makes it easier to take the cylinders out or put in. After you have the cylinders in, tighten the set screw then tighten the lock screws. Sometimes, the holes for the cylinders do not line up perfectly with the lock - this makes it easier to remove or install them.

And yes raimundo, nothing like watching the bridge ( the piece that locks into the frame to hold the lock in) fall down inside the door, especially when you don't have another one to replace it with! Can't tighten the lock up without it!