Kwikset Smartkey

[Atom Lock & Key]

Hi guys, new to the forum.. Locksmith in Conway, Arkansas.. Ive been reading this forum for quiet a while, just now registered.. Im stumped on something and need some help..

On Smartkey, how do you open it?? Ive been told it can be picked but the guy that told me so, had already removed a part from the cylinder.. I got called to a job a couple days ago, and I had to drill it to access the screws that hold the lock in, I basically just unscrewed them with my drill bit and let the lock fall on the inside, and then operated the latch..

Can you open an installed kwikset Smartkey lock without having a key and without damaging it and if so please explain..

Can they be reset in order to learn the cylinder a new key without using a reset cradle?

Thanks in advance.. Merry Christmas..

[freakparade3]

Welcome to the forum, Here is a link ot the results of searching for smartkey

search.php?keywords=smartkey&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

There is a ton of information about this lock on our site. Enjoy.

freakparade3

[Eyes_Only]

Have you looked into the BenJim bypass kit? I think they still sell it on HL Flake. It's only for the deadbolt and on the newer ones it doesn't work too well without leaving an obvious mark on the lock I heard.

The knob is still a problem for the most part unless you go down the destructive methods.

[Atom Lock & Key]

I just looked at those, they say you cant enter with no damage or marks, but its hard for me to believe.. Anyhow, Ive got a couple of the cylinders and some extra time, Ill see if i cant figure out a way.. Thank you guys..

[globallockytoo]

I'm not sure it is responsible to divulge the method for opening these locks in the general forum.

Locksmith from Conway, observing for a few years, just now deciding to chip in? I doubt it.

I know a locksmith from Conway and if you're him, you already know how to open the Smartkey. Why are you here really? (I'm suspiscious of your intentions - are you trying to trap us?)

[Tyler J. Thomas]

I know a locksmith from Conway and if you're him, you already know how to open the Smartkey.

What an incomprehensibly stupid remark. Do you know all locksmiths in Conway? Do you know the total number of locksmiths in Conway? Do you know the total of locksmiths living in Conway that are employed by locksmith companies outside of Conway? If you can't answer any of these questions, then your question was out of line and incredibly rude.

Granted, he has the burden of proof to prove he is who he says he is but be a gentleman about it, not an immature teenager.

[ElAbogado]

I know a locksmith from Conway and if you're him, you already know how to open the Smartkey. Why are you here really? (I'm suspiscious of your intentions - are you trying to trap us?)

Help! The paranoids are after me!

[globallockytoo]

I know a locksmith from Conway and if you're him, you already know how to open the Smartkey.

What an incomprehensibly stupid remark. Do you know all locksmiths in Conway? Do you know the total number of locksmiths in Conway? Do you know the total of locksmiths living in Conway that are employed by locksmith companies outside of Conway? If you can't answer any of these questions, then your question was out of line and incredibly rude.

Granted, he has the burden of proof to prove he is who he says he is but be a gentleman about it, not an immature teenager.

I know "a" locksmith in Conway AR. Not all 11 of them (companies).
It is a small town, not tiny, but still small. A lot of Best Products used commercially there. Of course the two primary products (residential) are Schlage and Kwikset because of their incredibly low price points.

Aside from this, one couldnt possibly know "all" locksmiths living anywhere. There are so many "so called" locksmiths living everywhere. Who am I to say a locksmith is not a locksmith?....who are you?

Just about every apartment complex in the entire country uses handymen, to do their dirty works and many of them also do locksmithing. If you do locksmithing, does this make you a locksmith?

get a life!

[Atom Lock & Key]

I'm not sure it is responsible to divulge the method for opening these locks in the general forum.

Locksmith from Conway, observing for a few years, just now deciding to chip in? I doubt it.

I know a locksmith from Conway and if you're him, you already know how to open the Smartkey. Why are you here really? (I'm suspiscious of your intentions - are you trying to trap us?)

All you have to do is look me up and give me a call, Im a professional.. Ive gotten alot of information off of this site over the years and everytime Ive ever thought about adding some information to it, someone else posts the same thing I have in mind.. I have no problem talking to anyone about my information as a locksmith or a company.. Lets be real!

[Eyes_Only]

I just looked at those, they say you cant enter with no damage or marks, but its hard for me to believe.. Anyhow, Ive got a couple of the cylinders and some extra time, Ill see if i cant figure out a way.. Thank you guys..

Dude I have tried that kit myself and it works very well. You do need to drill but that's done after precautions have been made to make sure all entry points will not be visible. It can't help on the knob and the newer redesigned deadbolt where your drill point will be obvious but it works like magic on the lever handle lockset.

The tools are really simple design so you can actually make your own too rather easily once you know what each tool is for and how to use them.

[Atom Lock & Key]

I appreciate that man...

[zeke79]

When you have access to the advanced forum there is a discussion there concerning a 32 key tryout set. I have used this tryout set and expanded it to 243 keys which are grouped according to the key in the 32 key set that almost operates the lock. So in use, you quickly try the 32 keys and note which one just about works. Then you refer to the group in the 243 key set that the key in the 32 key set points you to. Then you simply try the keys in the group referenced and the lock opens almost like you have the working key. There is no damage to the lock whatsoever and despite the number of keys in the tryout sets, it is a quick job since I have the keys grouped well. In fact, you can actually open the lock with the key that just about works in the 32 key set. You just need to force it to turn. It is a bit hard to turn but not so hard that it bends the blank. In my experience, the actual operating key for the lock still works after the lock has been forced with one of the 32 keys. Doing this with one of the keys in the 32 key set does in fact slightly bend the wafers but they are easily straightened or replaced. If you use the 32 key set and then refer to the 243 key set for the correct operating key there is no damage to the lock or bending of wafers.

I need to dig around and find my list of cuts for the 243 key set to see if I still have it saved somewhere as the hard drive on my locksmithing computer died. I am sure I have the list for the 32 key set somewhere and I believe I even posted them here in the advanced forums.

You can pick the lock. They are kind of tough to get the feel for at first but once you figure out the feel and the technique that works for you then you should be able to pick them when needed. The only tool produced to open these locks require you to drill a hole. You gently remove the face cap, drill your hole and then put the face cap back on to cover the drilled area of the lock. Personally, I prefer to not drill into the lock. The tryout keys are just as fast in worst case scenerio and in most cases much faster than drilling.

[Atom Lock & Key]

How does one gain access to the advanced forum.. Im new here, just recently registered as a member.. Ive been viewing the forum for sometime now, not long but for a good six months anyhow.. So far so good, thanks for all the info so far guys!

[Atom Lock & Key]

How does one gain access to the advanced forum.. Im new here, just recently registered as a member.. Ive been viewing the forum for sometime now, not long but for a good six months anyhow.. So far so good, thanks for all the info so far guys!

Nevermind, I found the rules and regulations for gaining access.. Ill do just that and go from there.. Again, thank you guys..

[Tyler J. Thomas]

When you have access to the advanced forum there is a discussion there concerning a 32 key tryout set. I have used this tryout set and expanded it to 243 keys which are grouped according to the key in the 32 key set that almost operates the lock. So in use, you quickly try the 32 keys and note which one just about works. Then you refer to the group in the 243 key set that the key in the 32 key set points you to. Then you simply try the keys in the group referenced and the lock opens almost like you have the working key. There is no damage to the lock whatsoever and despite the number of keys in the tryout sets, it is a quick job since I have the keys grouped well. In fact, you can actually open the lock with the key that just about works in the 32 key set. You just need to force it to turn. It is a bit hard to turn but not so hard that it bends the blank. In my experience, the actual operating key for the lock still works after the lock has been forced with one of the 32 keys. Doing this with one of the keys in the 32 key set does in fact slightly bend the wafers but they are easily straightened or replaced. If you use the 32 key set and then refer to the 243 key set for the correct operating key there is no damage to the lock or bending of wafers.

I need to dig around and find my list of cuts for the 243 key set to see if I still have it saved somewhere as the hard drive on my locksmithing computer died. I am sure I have the list for the 32 key set somewhere and I believe I even posted them here in the advanced forums.

You can pick the lock. They are kind of tough to get the feel for at first but once you figure out the feel and the technique that works for you then you should be able to pick them when needed. The only tool produced to open these locks require you to drill a hole. You gently remove the face cap, drill your hole and then put the face cap back on to cover the drilled area of the lock. Personally, I prefer to not drill into the lock. The tryout keys are just as fast in worst case scenerio and in most cases much faster than drilling.

So Schuyler posted the information I emailed him? Neat.