Anyone in Canada have success ordering Picks online?

[UnlockD]

I Live in Ontario, Canada and I have been interested in locksport for a while, but have had to rely on homebrew picks because of fear of it getting stopped at customs. I have no intent to break any laws with them, but I still have doubts with customs.

Has anyone in Canada ordered online, without a police officer delivering it to their house?

[MacGyver101]

Yes, absolutely: I've had lockpicks delivered many times from various places outside Canada, and have never once had any problems.

[UnlockD]

I'm about three hours away from Toronto, so thanks for your input, I'm going to place an order or two tomorrow.

[MarkC]

I've only had one issue, and that was a vehicle entry tool shipped via regular postal mail. Customs inspected and released it, but must have called the local police detachment because a pair of officers showed up at my door a few days later. Anything shipped by courier (UPS/Fedex) has been problem free, even when the shipping label has "LOCK PICKS" in huge bold print.

Is there any licensing required in Ontario? If not, then you probably don't need to worry about it either way.

Mark

[unlisted]

Why did officers show up, and what happened?

[Eyes_Only]

They came knocking at your door? This is the first time I've heard something like this actually happening. I've heard maybe once before of customs (don't remember what country this was in) inspecting and then confiscating a package but even for Canada that sounds extreme. Though I'm not a expert on Canadian law so I wouldn't really know.

[MarkC]

The local RCMP came to my door. It wasn't really a big deal, they just wanted to know if I was licensed. Here in Alberta, licensing is required to own picks/auto entry tools.

Mark

[kromedge]

I live in Ontario and I've had pick sets, comb picks, a snap gun, a plug spinner and a key machine delivered right to my door with absolutely no problem and all of it was bought from outside of Canada. The only provinces I've heard of having problems are Alberta and BC. Don't know what the issue is in BC but in Alberta you must be licensed to own these tools.

[amlwchlocksmiths]

i dont no why they are rules like that where you are.i can own any tool i wunt.and infact iv had a stop check before by the police and they didnt even no what they are.im sure they would take any car tools of none locksmiths in the area carriy them though.

sorry to reply because im out the area and dosent help but owell

[SumTingFishy]

Just looking for an update.
Has there been any issues with orders going to Ontario?
What are the laws regarding ordering picks? Do I need to be licensed?

[Nelrond]

I order my products from lockpickcanada and I've had no issues. I'm guessing it's because the products themselves are shipped from within Canada so they can't be stopped by customs.

I live in Alberta and you need a license to possess so I'm careful who I show my skills to.

By the way, the only way (that I've heard, I haven't been able to find any info on how to get a license) to get one is to actually go before a judge. I'm assuming you need a sponsor of some kind.

[MacGyver101]

By the way, the only way (that I've heard, I haven't been able to find any info on how to get a license) to get one is to actually go before a judge. I'm assuming you need a sponsor of some kind.

It's the first link if you Google for "locksmith license Alberta".

Locksmith Licensing Requirements

Just looking for an update.
Has there been any issues with orders going to Ontario?
What are the laws regarding ordering picks? Do I need to be licensed?

There haven't been any legislative changes that I'm aware of, so not much to update. The Criminal Code makes licensing a Provincial matter, and Ontario has (thus far) opted not to institute a licensing program, so you should be fine.

It's important to note, though, that the rules for automotive-related picks are different. You can, in theory, be jailed for up to two years for either selling or possessing an "automotive master key" without a license from the Province:

Section 353(5): “automobile master key” includes a key, pick, rocker key or other instrument designed or adapted to operate the ignition or other switches or locks of a series of motor vehicles.

Note that, unlike other sections of the Criminal Code, simply possessing an automotive rocker pick, marshall key, etc. is enough to be considered a crime, unless you have a license. In contrast, Section 351 covers "any instrument suitable for the purpose of breaking into any place, motor vehicle, vault or safe", and Section 352 covers "any instrument suitable for breaking into a coin-operated device or a currency exchange device"... but, in both of those cases, there has to be a situation that suggests you were going to use them to commit a crime, rather than simply owning them. (Note: I am not a lawyer, so please don't rely on this -- or anything else you might read on any Internet forum -- for legal advice.)

So... automotive tools are always likely to get some heightened attention from Customs, but everything else coming into Ontario should be fine. (That has certainly been my experience, but your mileage may vary.)

[Nelrond]

Macgyver101: Well thanks to you for that. xD Didn't even google those words. I instead searched through the licensing page of the provincial webpage and found zilch.

[MacGyver101]

Hope that helps a bit. Government websites are often a pain to navigate!

[af_newbie]

lockpickcanada.com They are somewhere downtown Toronto.

I ordered their sparrows start kit, got it in 3 days. It is their basic kit, but it has 6 wrenches, half diamond, hook and two rakes.

They shipped within a couple of hours of placing my order.
Very good service if you ask me.