How to disassemble Kwikset? Photo included

[theTastyCat]

Hi all - this is likely the noobest of noob inquiries, but I'm following Illusion's fine repinning tutorial and am already stuck. I've gotten my cheap Kwikset deadbolt this far:



I cannot figure out how to remove the cylinder. I'm fairly confident i either have to remove the darker-colored outer ring or the lighter-colored inner ring, but I don't want to mess it up by prying where it shouldn't be pried. How do I proceed?

Really appreciate the help.

[atlsmitty]

You have to remove clip(ring you described) by slowly(not a lot of force) working it towards the top of cylinder. This allows you to remove tailpiece. Then insert key, rotate and push the plug out with a follower. If you don't have a follower( u should if your disassembling locks) a think sharpie will work.

[atlsmitty]

Noticed something else in your post. The "light colored ring" your describing is not a retaining clip. It is part of the actual plug. Only the "dark colored ring" is actually a clip(ring).

[theTastyCat]

Thanks, ATL - I'm sorry to say I can't seem to get it to move by hand. Should I try gripping it with a pair of pliers?

MANY thanks.

[theTastyCat]

Nevermind! Just realized I simply had to pull it sideways. I was trying to pull it off in the opposite direction of the cylinder - impossible!

Thanks for the help.

[atlsmitty]

Well im glad you got it off, though sideways doesn't sound correct(but i guess it could be how the cylinder is held) . make sure when you put it back together that the clip fits snug.

[theTastyCat]

Well I just found a suitable plug follower, but inserted it with one spring still in the cylinder, which considerably lengthened the spring It really will be fine for me to have four pins to work with in this lock, however!

I've decided to wait on this until tomorrow when I'll go out to the shop and have a vise to put the lock in - trying to hold the lock, the flashlight, and a tension wrench over pins is proving a bit much!

[atlsmitty]

if your planning on putting this lock on a door i wouldnt leave it as 4 pins. there isnt much security with a kwikset from the start, lowering the number of pin only make it worse.

[Evan]

You have to remove clip(ring you described) by slowly(not a lot of force) working it towards the top of cylinder. This allows you to remove tailpiece. Then insert key, rotate and push the plug out with a follower. If you don't have a follower( u should if your disassembling locks) a think sharpie will work.

WRONG... You would only remove the c-clip on the tailpiece if you need to replace the tailpiece..

Kwikset locks are re-keyed by removing the spring cover at the top of the pin stacks on the bible of the cylinder... You dump all the pins and springs out, installing new ones and new drivers and springs, then recap with a new spring cover from the pinning kit...

I don't know any professional locksmiths who re-key Kwikset locks removing the c-clip for the tailpiece and using a plug follower... If you have ever seen a Kwikset rekeying kit you would know this, as both springs and the spring clips are included in it...

~~ Evan

[n2oah]

WRONG... You would only remove the c-clip on the tailpiece if you need to replace the tailpiece..
Kwikset locks are re-keyed by removing the spring cover at the top of the pin stacks on the bible of the cylinder... You dump all the pins and springs out, installing new ones and new drivers and springs, then recap with a new spring cover from the pinning kit...
I don't know any professional locksmiths who re-key Kwikset locks removing the c-clip for the tailpiece and using a plug follower... If you have ever seen a Kwikset rekeying kit you would know this, as both springs and the spring clips are included in it...

Yes, this is the easiest way to do it. Messing around with the circlip and followers is a waste of time if the bible cover is removable.
Take a pliers and gently bend up the sides of the cover. Not too much, just enough so it can be slid back. Before sliding it back, make sure to cover the top of the chamber with your finger, or the springs will go flying across the room. Then you can dump out the pins. For reassembly, put everything back in place and crimp the bible cover in place with a pliers.

[atlsmitty]

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WRONG... You would only remove the c-clip on the tailpiece if you need to replace the tailpiece..

Kwikset locks are re-keyed by removing the spring cover at the top of the pin stacks on the bible of the cylinder... You dump all the pins and springs out, installing new ones and new drivers and springs, then recap with a new spring cover from the pinning kit...

I don't know any professional locksmiths who re-key Kwikset locks removing the c-clip for the tailpiece and using a plug follower... If you have ever seen a Kwikset rekeying kit you would know this, as both springs and the spring clips are included in it...

~~ Evan[/quote]

Now of course springs, caps, and covers are included in rekeying kit. If a spring or cover needs replacing there in the kit, it is the same with all pinning kits. I would like a show of hands of smiths who replace springs and top pins every time they rekey a cylinder. Certainly it is not faster(not saying faster is better) but removing clip and tailpiece takes seconds. I would have the plug out and pins dumped in 30 seconds and ready to start repinning. Rekeying a lock does not necessarily mean changing springs and top pins.

[atlsmitty]

and the original poster stated that he could not get the plug out. i gave him steps on to remove the plug. he obviously is following a tutorial on repinning and hes currently trying to remove plug. i simply answered his question. i assume since he is following a tutorial that he is gonna load the spring and top pins from within the cylinder

[FarmerFreak]

I would like a show of hands of smiths who replace springs and top pins every time they rekey a cylinder.

Out of the fifteen locksmiths that work here (myself included). Nobody takes the cap off and replaces it without a reason to do so. And rekeying the lock doesn't justify taking the cap off or replacing it, that's just wastefull.

[keysman]

I would like a show of hands of smiths who replace springs and top pins every time they rekey a cylinder.

Out of the fifteen locksmiths that work here (myself included). Nobody takes the cap off and replaces it without a reason to do so. And rekeying the lock doesn't justify taking the cap off or replacing it, that's just wastefull.

Now Keep in mind, I rarely work on KWs, but I have to agree with FarmerFreak, I don't, and most smiths that I know/ work with don't replace top pins and springs, unless necessary.

[FarmerFreak]

I'm sorry I kinda feel a little dumb this morning. I just recounted all the locksmiths that work here, it's seventeen not fifteen. Sorry about that.