Purpose of HPC Computer Picks?

[DUKE]

I've been searching around for a couple days and haven't been able to find many specifics about these particular picks.

I gather the gist of it is that these were designed as a set of 'lifter' type picks that you insert into a keyway that's under a bit of tension and just raise upwards, hoping your pins set as though you were moving a proper key profile against them.

Is that about it, or am I missing some other important uses or specialty types of locks they're designed for?

As a side note, is there any way to search for a specific phrase on this site? Being able to specify "Computer Picks" as two words together would probably nail down a lot less results than the searching for Computer AND Picks.

Search-Fu takes practice like Pick-Fu, I guess.

[vector40]

You've basically got it. They're called profile picks. You can tilt them slightly, adjust them, move them in and out a bit to try and simulate even more bittings... the theory is that they were designed to represent the most possible key profiles, so a full set should have a good chance of fitting just about any lock properly.

[Omikron]

I've always wondered about the practicality of these picks, too. Has anyone that has actually purchased them found them to be a useful tool to have in their arsenal? I somehow get the impression that they're about as useful as auto "jiggler" keys, which is to say, not very useful.

[vector40]

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[Omikron]

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[SFGOON]

Nah, to answer all questions.

1. Rocker, profile, computer generated picks are particularly usefull against lock with security pins. Tension is not constant, rather it is "pulsed," and the pick is moved in a minute (maybe 2mm up and down) figure eight.

2. They are very usefull, I keep a set with me in my pick set that I used for ops (never applied in the real world, only for training mind you.) If pin by pin and raking doesn't work, bust out the rockers.

[bonez]

guys where can you purchase these?



auto jigglers are ok just not on auto's!!

[illusion]

here is the "high tech version"
http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... &ProdID=32

and here is the HPC "wave" type:
http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... ProdID=390

I have a small set of jigglers which will open some padlocks faily quickly

[toomush2drink]

They do work and they have got me out trouble on the door.

[illusion]

hey toomush, which set do you use?

and considering the chances of chhosing the right pick how long on average ha it taken you to find the correct one?

thanks

[toomush2drink]

The set i have i got 2nd hand and they have "initial" written on them. The last time i used them my pick gun was dead, no letterbox, antislip latch and i just couldnt get it by hand picking. I think i tried about 6 or 7 both sides,each end before the lock literally fell open. It is a longwinded proccess with 30 picks and all the combinations but like i say its great having another option when your backs against the wall, so to speak.Better than drilling the cylinder especially as this one could be locked from the inside too which would have meant replacing the latch as well.

[DUKE]

It's great having so many different techniques available for different challenges. And lots to learn and practice with each. I can see how satisfying it would be to work with locks for a living.

I'm currently working on impressioning pin tumblers, then I'll probably go back to manual picking and try to learn to pick spool pins - unless I come across a lever lock to work with first. Eventually I'll have to return to impressioning for wafers, too.

I'm finding all this variety very spicy.

[Auto45]

Looks like I may have to get some new toys I am going for the Computer Generated Pick Set, see how they do.
auto

[greyman]

The set i have i got 2nd hand and they have "initial" written on them. ...

I wonder if that's INITIAL, the French lock expert group? Now you'll have to shoot me since I'm not supposed to know that