Weiser smart key first impression

by **zeke79** » 20 Mar 2007 17:39

I recently traded for a weiser smartkey from a fellow 101'er. It arrived today and so far I am pretty impressed with it. I have picked it now which took about 20 minutes the first time. The feel of the lock is very odd indeed, sort of "mushy". I have picked the lock several times now and will soon rekey it and try again later tomorrow after work. Here is a list of likes and dislikes of the lock:

Like:
-Instantly rekeyable by end user
-No loss of permutations when rekeying multiple times
-Bump PROOF
-A giant leap forward in pick resistance compared to kwikset/weiser originals
-Easy to disassemble and reassemble

Dislikes:
-Very possible to fubar the rekey process and end up in a lockout situation
-The sidebar springs feel weak. Not at all the the noticeable click of a medeco or primus lock. Could be an issue of durability after moderate use.
-Uses a KW1 blank

I will post some breakdown photos hopefully late tomorrow night but there is my opinion of the lock in a nutshell.

by **UWSDWF** » 20 Mar 2007 18:46

hillarous when i pick a firends door with it on it and then re-key it......

by **zeke79** » 20 Mar 2007 18:51

I do agree there UWSDWF. It can happen for sure but overall it does what it is supposed to do which is stop bumpkeys and greatly increase picking resistance.

But who isn't up for a good joke every once in a while :lol:

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by **JackNco** » 20 Mar 2007 18:55

Maybe im missing something as we don't have kwiksets here but whats wrong with the KW1

Surely the idea is that it can be re keyed and so would need a readily avalible key, otherwise whats the point?

by **dab** » 20 Mar 2007 19:32

Is this lock out in the US? I can't find one. I assume this is the sidebar wafer lock?

by **n2oah** » 20 Mar 2007 19:33

Drawbacks of KW1: not restricted, and the keyway is way too open, and easily allows pick tools to get in and have a free range of motion.

by **n2oah** » 20 Mar 2007 19:38

How bout you give a few photos of the insides? I watched a video on the smartkey, but all I saw was a guy in a phony looking vest blab on about nothing.

by **zeke79** » 20 Mar 2007 20:14

by **unjust** » 21 Mar 2007 13:24

isnt' there somethign similar used on shopping mall doors in the usa? i recall a discussion about a security flaw with them and the lil keypin thing used to rekey.

by **zeke79** » 21 Mar 2007 13:30

I think you are talking about U change locks. These locks (smartkey) have a different security flaw that is serious and very obvious when you take one apart and start looking at how it is made.

by **hesevil** » 21 Mar 2007 15:26

Interesting lock and awesome pictures, thank you for them.

by **unjust** » 21 Mar 2007 15:39

those were it.

do these not have a similar vulnerability? they're a similar mechanism no?

by **zeke79** » 21 Mar 2007 15:42

No, the mechanisms are different. I am sure there are some Uchange it lock breakdowns around here somewhere. You can compare the pics and see the differences.

U-change link. As you can see, the Uchange operates on a different principal.

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by **unjust** » 21 Mar 2007 16:57

so if i understand the difference is a side by side meshing adjustable pin instead of an internal sleeved adjustable pin correct?

by **lockedin** » 21 Mar 2007 17:31

I haven't been this excited about a lock in a long time!!!!!! I can't wait to get my hands on one.

Weiser smart key first impression

Weiser smart key first impression

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