Unpickable Yale?

by **Quin** » 28 Mar 2004 10:28

Well I've been progressing nicely and I'm confident on a lot of locks now including those with various security pins.

I was in B&Q yesterday getting some bits and I saw a Yale cylinder and I noticed it had "Anti Pick / Anti Drill" and I thought to myself I didn't have one of them to play with so I bought it. I thought it would be the next step up.

Heh, this lock is living up to its "unpickable" name so far :-)

Here is a piccy:

I haven't had much play time with it yet but after trying normal picking, then raking, then snap gun and then electric pick I thought I better take a closer look and that's when I saw the tiny pin at the bottom.

I can't believe it's not pickable but wondered if anyone else has had a try on one of these and how did they do?

by **Chucklz** » 28 Mar 2004 15:04

I've never seen this kind of lock from Yale before, but other brands do use a similar security mechanism. Can you push this pin down with your pick or tension tool? That probably would be the easiest method. You could also modify a key to act as a tension tool

by **Varjeal** » 28 Mar 2004 15:51

The set up of positions 2,3,4 of your particular lock are the nightmare for every lock picker. You have a deep/shallow/deep combination which means that you have to reach around the two deep positions to lift the furtherest two pins (six pin lock for those who can't tell) lightly brush #2 & #4 lift #3 pretty high, and lift #1 pretty high as well. Not to mention having a fairly tight keyway with some nasty wards.

Best of luck. :shock:

by **plot** » 28 Mar 2004 17:08

That key biting is a nightmare... good luck. :shock:

by **cormu** » 29 Mar 2004 9:08

OMFG that is nasty

good luck and dont get frustrated .)

by **CitySpider** » 29 Mar 2004 11:19

Looks like fun.

If you think that it's unpickable, though, that's half your problem. It's just a lock you haven't picked yet. that's all. Maybe it's because you don't have tools that're good enough yet, maybe it's because your skills haven't progressed to a high enough level yet, but you'll get it open.

Let us know when you do.

by **Quin** » 29 Mar 2004 12:41

I see all locks (including this one) as:

unpickable = Something that will take slightly longer

by **Chucklz** » 29 Mar 2004 12:51

Try dissassembly followed by building up pin by pin. Best of luck, you are goign to need it.

by **cormu** » 29 Mar 2004 13:38

Quin wrote:I see all locks (including this one) as:

unpickable = Something that will take slightly longer

Hallejulaa !!!

Praise the Lo...ooorrdd

w007

by **Luke** » 29 Mar 2004 16:25

This could also be like a yale i have. Normal driver in one the rest are spools.

by **Jlo** » 25 Apr 2004 5:26

Hi,

Looking at the picture of the lock and key it looks like the key allows the pin in the bottom of the lock (Where you may put your tension wrench in) to stay potruded!

In other words if you put a tool in such as a tension wrench or wrong key as long as this pin was pushed down the key would never open how every much you picked the top pins!

I think you need to just pick the top pins and make sure you do not push the bottom single pin down with your tension wrench!

Just my thoughts!

Cheers

Jlo

by **raimundo** » 25 Apr 2004 9:48

there is that cut in the bottom of the key blank, but it appears to be outside the lock so yes, the key blank appears to require the thing be pushed down, no problem, the tension tool will hold it down. :wink:

its one of those little short pins, like I have encountered at the top of a best/peak cylinder. these are pickable, but once the core is rotated 180 degrees, they can cause trouble, dropping and causing the core to stop in the upside down position. its more annoying than unsolvable.

by **quicklocks** » 26 Apr 2004 6:14

by **technik** » 26 Apr 2004 8:34

hey, I cant find Yale locks anywhere. They sell Schlage at a shop near me though. They sell dealock and knob packs, all range of security. What are they like in comparison to Yales? harder? easier? What sort of pins do they have in them?

Thanks guys

Technik

by **toomush2drink** » 26 Apr 2004 9:04

You could have some fun with yales, they contain spool pins normally in 2 and 4 and can be so difficult at times then at other times ok but never easy. I have one i learnt to pick after a couple of months practice so i repinned it and not got any where near picking yet even with the pick gun. Even with a gun i find then hit and miss so are ok some are pigs ! They are pretty common over here in britain.

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