Ingersol ?

by **SteveW** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:48 am

I had a call today from an old lady down my road, her husband had gone of with her keys and would not be back for some hours. So i said i would have a look. Got to the front door and was faced with an ingersol B-SC100 and an B-SC110, tried a few things no joy. How do i get these open? I didnt want to drill (new door and expencive lock, and on principle)

It was ok in the end , i hoped over the fence and picked the cylinder on the back door, hey presto!

I have no idea what to do about the ingersols though, ther are a few around my area. Ive seen specific ingersol picks for sale, do they work?
Are they any good?

Answers on a post card to:
Steve
Silghtly Confused
London

In adition i have just found out that the cylinder in these is a multilock interactive, Any advise?

Can they be picked?

by **pinky** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:01 am

the tool on sale for ingersol relies on the lock not being deadlocked and you drilling a hole through the door, if letterbox and again not deadlocked then letterbox kit may help.
failing this a trip to see chris b who teaches the impressioning of these along with picking them.

by **SteveW** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:14 am

They were the ingersol London Line, i didnt recognise them as these were in brass and i thought they only came in a crome finish. Has anybody else managed to open one of these without CB's help?

Is the tool a good purchase (ive spotted quite a few ingersols, old and new in my area)?

Or should i get on the blower to Chris?

I tried my LB tool but they had a letter cage :roll:

by **sidpick** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:39 am

These new ingersoll locks will be ''easier'' than the 10 lever ones
They can be picked - one side at a time so in essance you are picking five levers - twice... I've not accomplished picking ingersoll yet but I am assured by two people that it is possible.
The mul t lock picking again, is very possible with the tool set sold by souber tools. I have picked all mtl formats, left, right and interactive with this tool set. Might need to use a different wider tension wrench but if you stick to the instructions you will be in in under 5 minutes with most cylinders.

Must admit I have only seen the new ingersoll locks and not had a chance to play yet.

Current best advice - do what you did, go for easy route! ingersolls just dont have any easy option if they are deadlocked!

by **SteveW** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:29 am

Thanks alot Sid
Ingersols are aproblem i think im going to have to overcome, but its good to know that they are pickable. I think i will go back after Christmas and see if they will let me take their locks off to have a poke. I didnt charge them as they are neighbours and i did it as a favour, i dont think they will mind :wink:

by **ju_** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:51 am

SteveW wrote:I think i will go back after Christmas and see if they will let me take their locks off to have a poke.

Will post pictures of a dismantled 10 pin Ingersoll cylinder if I am allowed? Between Christmas and New Year.

Admins/Mods am I allowed? (Will wait for an answer)

by **EvoRed** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:00 am

I take it you mean 10 lever Ju?!

by **ju_** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:35 am

EvoRed wrote:I take it you mean 10 lever Ju?!

Never seen inside one. So I take your word for it, 10 lever and not 10 pin.

(They actually look more like thick wafers looking into the "W" keyhole, but how would I know I've only been picking locks for 3 months :wink:

)

by **Shrub** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:21 am

Post the pics up, you will learn somthing and those that havent seen one will learn as well :wink:

I dont think its going to be frowned upon as there not insurance approved.

by **ju_** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:46 am

Shrub wrote:Post the pics up, you will learn somthing and those that havent seen one will learn as well

I dont think its going to be frowned upon as there not insurance approved.

OK Shrub here they are.....

Steve it is INGERSOLL not ingersol :wink:

Although the pictures do not show colour very well the cylinder (without the housing) is a brass colour

EvoRed I see what you mean by levers now :wink:

Front Housing

Key

Back of Housing

Housing in Bits

Back of Cylinder

Cylinder in Bits

What I am going to call the Lock Bar

Key in Levers Aligned Picture 1

Key in Levers Aligned Picture 2

Key out Levers NOT Aligned

Back of cylinder Key Out (Note position of Lock Bar at the top)

Back of cylinder Key In (Note position of Lock Bar at the top)

Hope people like the pictures

by **Shrub** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:48 am

I like them, great thanks, how about pulling the levers out and showing us those :wink:

i dont come across these so i am genuinely interested

by **oldlock** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:28 pm

That lock is either master keyed or someone has been filing the levers .......

Paul

by **eric343** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:50 pm

I'd be very curious to see some more information on these locks. I encountered a bizarre variant of the Ingersoll in the field today; has anyone heard of a similar lock being sold in 1950s-1970s America?

The key had exactly one cut, halfway between the tip and bow, then a number of smaller cuts near the tip.

by **oldlock** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:03 pm

eric343 wrote:I'd be very curious to see some more information on these locks. I encountered a bizarre variant of the Ingersoll in the field today; has anyone heard of a similar lock being sold in 1950s-1970s America?

The key had exactly one cut, halfway between the tip and bow, then a number of smaller cuts near the tip.

Not sure what you came across but the original ingersoll impregnable padlocks were used on missile silos, they were then replaced by padlocks made by S&G but still with an ingersoll core, until they were replaced with medeco cores in the S&G body.

Paul

by **eric343** » Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:16 pm

I don't think so... this was in a key-in-knob lock on the front door of a house!

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